Carbon
Super Member
Now since many have had their say about the HU, some acting as if they have it figured out, others admitting they don’t, I believe we have come to a place where we should realize there are parts of this no man can fully understand.
But at the same time, IMO it does cast some light on the subject of the op.
That is, did Jesus bear God’s wrath and was he forsaken? Again I say, yes and yes.
It seems the subject of the HU which cannot be fully understood and or explained helps us to better understand the subject of the op.
First, after reading this next part there will be those who say, “I never denied Christ suffered.”
But this is just the first stop, let’s try to go further.
The humiliation of Christ has two elements, his suffering for the purpose of making satisfaction, and the placing of Himself under the law in order to merit salvation for all his elect.
His suffering can further be subdivided into His suffering of soul and his suffering in body, to which the suffering of soul was conjoined.
But according to His divine nature He neither can suffer nor has suffered.
But at the same time, IMO it does cast some light on the subject of the op.
That is, did Jesus bear God’s wrath and was he forsaken? Again I say, yes and yes.
It seems the subject of the HU which cannot be fully understood and or explained helps us to better understand the subject of the op.
First, after reading this next part there will be those who say, “I never denied Christ suffered.”
But this is just the first stop, let’s try to go further.
The humiliation of Christ has two elements, his suffering for the purpose of making satisfaction, and the placing of Himself under the law in order to merit salvation for all his elect.
His suffering can further be subdivided into His suffering of soul and his suffering in body, to which the suffering of soul was conjoined.
But according to His divine nature He neither can suffer nor has suffered.