God Ordains all that comes to pass ...

What for it does not help you in the least

Sorry that is begging the question

Eph 1:11 does not say God determinately causes all things

His will may be to permit or restrain.

And it states he works out not causes.

Works out can simply mean to use what happens in a way that fit in with his plans.

You have got nothing
Tom is trying to change the topic from hos statement in post #212 and #241

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Tom is trying to change the topic from hos statement in post #212 and #241

FOREKNOWLEDGE IS DETERMINATIVE IN PROVISIONISM
Duh that is my comment from post 212

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What for it does not help you in the least

Sorry that is begging the question

Eph 1:11 does not say God determinately causes all things

His will may be to permit or restrain.

And it states he works out not causes.

Works out can simply mean to use what happens in a way that fit in with his plans.

You have got nothing

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Demonstrating once again reading is not a skill you attempt to master
 
Duh that is my comment from post 212

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What for it does not help you in the least

Sorry that is begging the question

Eph 1:11 does not say God determinately causes all things

His will may be to permit or restrain.

And it states he works out not causes.

Works out can simply mean to use what happens in a way that fit in with his plans.

You have got nothing

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Demonstrating once again reading is not a skill you attempt to master
Tom stands by his comment in post #212

God needs yo see what happens to see if it fits into His plans. What if it doesn't? LOL

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Tom stands by his comment in post #212

God needs yo see what happens to see if it fits into His plans. What if it doesn't? LOL

FOREKNOWLEDGE IS DETERMINATIVE IN PROVISIONISM
You failed to address the point

Eph 1:11 does not say God determinately causes all things

His will may be to permit or restrain.

And it states he works out not causes.

Works out can simply mean to use what happens in a way that fit in with his plans.

Ps nothing is stated about waiting to see

You are being deceptive once again
 
You failed to address the point

Eph 1:11 does not say God determinately causes all things

His will may be to permit or restrain.

And it states he works out not causes.

Works out can simply mean to use what happens in a way that fit in with his plans.

Ps nothing is stated about waiting to see

You are being deceptive once again
It says He works out ALL THINGS according to the council of His will. Nothing about seeing what happens to see if it fits His plans.

As you can see in FOREKNOWLEDGE IS DETERMINATIVE IN PROVISIONISM
 
It says He works out ALL THINGS according to the council of His will. Nothing about seeing what happens to see if it fits His plans.

As you can see in FOREKNOWLEDGE IS DETERMINATIVE IN PROVISIONISM
Eph 1:11 does not say God determinately causes all things

His will may be to permit or restrain.

And it states he works out not causes.

Works out can simply mean to use what happens in a way that fit in with his plans.

Ps nothing is stated about waiting to see
 
Eph 1:11 does not say God determinately causes all things

His will may be to permit or restrain.

And it states he works out not causes.

Works out can simply mean to use what happens in a way that fit in with his plans.

Ps nothing is stated about waiting to see
Nothing in Ephesians one about seeing what happens. It says God works out ALL THINGS according to the council of His will. Man was not consulted. ?
 
Nothing in Ephesians one about seeing what happens. It says God works out ALL THINGS according to the council of His will. Man was not consulted. ?
Eph 1:11 does not say God determinately causes all things

His will may be to permit or restrain.

And it states he works out not causes.

Works out can simply mean to use what happens in a way that fit in with his plans.


Reformedguy does not address the facts
 
Eph 1:11 does not say God determinately causes all things

His will may be to permit or restrain.

And it states he works out not causes.

Works out can simply mean to use what happens in a way that fit in with his plans.


Reformedguy does not address the facts
Unbiblical. Nowhere does it say God plans around what happens which of course means...

READY?

FOREKNOWLEDGE IS DETERMINATIVE IN PROVISIONISM
 
Unbiblical. Nowhere does it say God plans around what happens which of course means...

READY?

FOREKNOWLEDGE IS DETERMINATIVE IN PROVISIONISM
You failed to deal with the facts

Eph 1:11 does not say God determinately causes all things

His will may be to permit or restrain.

And it states he works out not causes.

Works out can simply mean to use what happens in a way that fit in with his plans.
 
You failed to deal with the facts

Eph 1:11 does not say God determinately causes all things

His will may be to permit or restrain.

And it states he works out not causes.

Works out can simply mean to use what happens in a way that fit in with his plans.
NOWHERE does it hint at God planning around your choices. Mr sola sriptura simply throws that in there to push his Pelagianism.

It says works out all things ACCORDING TO THE COUNCIL OF HIS WILL. Paul left out the part about consulting tom.
 
NOWHERE does it hint at God planning around your choices. Mr sola sriptura simply throws that in there to push his Pelagianism.

It says works out all things ACCORDING TO THE COUNCIL OF HIS WILL. Paul left out the part about consulting tom.
 
NOWHERE does it hint at God planning around your choices. Mr sola sriptura simply throws that in there to push his Pelagianism.

It says works out all things ACCORDING TO THE COUNCIL OF HIS WILL. Paul left out the part about consulting tom.
 
Now Tom is refuted to mindless repetition of what has already been refuted.

The text does not say He takes into consideration what you will do. CASE CLOSED

SCRIPTURE WINS AGAIN
 
Now Tom is refuted to mindless repetition of what has already been refuted.

The text does not say He takes into consideration what you will do. CASE CLOSED

SCRIPTURE WINS AGAIN
And you lose


You cannot refute anything by not addressing it
 
And you lose


You cannot refute anything by not addressing it
I did address and actually quoted the verse. Says nothing about anything man does or God planning around your choices.

CASE CLOSED
 
I did address and actually quoted the verse. Says nothing about anything man does or God planning around your choices.

CASE CLOSED
Sorry you failed to deal with the fact the verses does not state God determines all things

Eph 1:11 does not say God determinately causes all things

His will may be to permit or restrain.

And it states he works out not causes.
 
Sorry you failed to deal with the fact the verses does not state God determines all things

Eph 1:11 does not say God determinately causes all things

His will may be to permit or restrain.

And it states he works out not causes.
You left out your other stupid sentence. I wonder why? LOL

FOREKNOWLEDGE IS DETERMINATIVE IN PROVISIONISM
 
You left out your other stupid sentence. I wonder why? LOL

FOREKNOWLEDGE IS DETERMINATIVE IN PROVISIONISM
You still have not dealt with this

Sorry you failed to deal with the fact the verses does not state God determines all things

Eph 1:11 does not say God determinately causes all things

His will may be to permit or restrain.

And it states he works out not causes.
 
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