Is it “possible” to prove vaccines are killing people?

Furion said:
You don't own nor speak for science, that is silly.

Saying "science works" is akin to saying gravity works.

Some who think they are some sort of scientist say really silly things.
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Yeah but vibise does scinecy stuff
 
DeSanto said:
What evidence would one need to prove vaccines were killing people?

Or is it something that is just impossible to prove?

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There is no power in science to persuade those who cling to their narrative.

Right now they can just claim "COVID did that"

There will come a day when you can probably trace the vaccine as the root cause, but you'd need to overcome the collective narrative and get them to look where they probably don't want to look.
 
Furion said:
The science can only be as good as the analysis.

Considering they foisted Fauci in our faces, even declared himself "SCIENCE" incarnate!!!!!!! I'll pass on their analysis.
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Phony Tony really screwed us over badly with his science nonsense
 
DeSanto said:
What evidence would one need to prove vaccines were killing people?

Or is it something that is just impossible to prove?

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Medical records accessible to insurance companies or government medical plans should be enough show a link.

If death rates increase significantly after vaccination but do not increase for the unvaccinated, that would good evidence for a link. The analysis should take into account deaths from COVID, drug overdoses, and other known factors.
 
Yakuda said:
Didn't someone say, when trump was president, that it has never taken less than 5 years to make a vaccine and they would never take a vaccine under a trump presidency but now love the thing so much they want to force it on others.
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They could still be correct. The clot shot is not a vaccine.
 
Furion said:
The science can only be as good as the analysis.

Considering they foisted Fauci in our faces, even declared himself "SCIENCE" incarnate!!!!!!! I'll pass on their analysis.
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His line was along the lines of "if you disagreed with him you disagreed with science'
 
  • There’s been around a 600% increase in thrombosis deaths in UK jab recipients for 2021. He reports the case of a 30-year veteran in the industry who’s going to lose his job in April for refusing the jab, yet he works in a mortuary! This industry veteran also reports a 600% increase in thrombosis deaths, and all clients are jabbed. An experienced nurse who works in an agency, ‘Michelle’, has also reported to him that 9/10 cases coming into hospital A&E’s are people who can’t breathe because of blood clots. Tommo: ‘But they’re telling us the opposite’. John: And typically those showing blood clots in the lungs will be retained for treatment; those with clots in the legs, for example, will be sent home. Yet they will die at home because the blood clot will move around in the body. People of ALL ages are coming in having died from these clots. There’s no set age. (Although he’s not seen children in this situation yet.) How can John verify these causes of death? Because he must verify the paperwork that the coroner sends to him, which lists the cause of death. Conversations with family members during the funeral process elicit information, too. Family members often don’t see the connection between the death and their loved one having been jabbed because it happened several weeks or months prior.

600% increase in thrombosis deaths in UK jab recipients for 2021

There’s been around a 600% increase in thrombosis deaths in UK jab recipients for 2021. He reports the case of a 30-year veteran in the industry who’s going to lose his job in April for refusing the jab, yet he works in a mortuary! This industry veteran also reports a 600% increase in thrombosis...
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Authentic Nouveau said:
The changed and sick platelets can be seen under microscope.
Thrombosis and thrombocytopenia, as well as many coagulation disorders, have been well documented.
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True; but, people are dying from various different causes, and it's very hard to prove that they resulted from the vaccinations. My fiancee's mother had had cancer, but, after treatment, had no sign of it left. She had her two jabs, then, very soon afterwards, the cancer came back, unbelievably aggressively. Her consultant said that he couldn't understand it. She died within a few weeks.

I doubt if anyone could prove that the jabs were to blame, but it's certainly very suspicious.
 
vibise said:
The first vaccine was approved while Trump was still in office.
The quick pace of vaccine development was evident throughout Trump's last year.
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They still held it off until after the elections for political and not science reasons and they can show the C-19 vaxx is a killer for some but they will not find what they are not looking for. You're not contributing anything to this discussion except rudiments. Nobody knows long-term effects. Whether or not the vaxx is a time bomb of sorts. No science reason to discount but there is plenty of political reasons.
 
vibise said:
The first vaccine was approved while Trump was still in office.
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EUA is a much lower standard and it was EUA approved as a prophylactic, not treatment. It was approved for financial and not science reasons. They saw an opportunity to make money with zero liability to big pharma. IOWs the public was victims of fraud. The vaxxx made plenty more million and billionaires while many sank further below the poverty line. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer.
vibise said:
The quick pace of vaccine development was evident throughout Trump's last year.
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They were working on it all far before 12/19.
 
Theophilos said:
If death rates increase significantly after vaccination but do not increase for the unvaccinated, that would good evidence for a link.
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Which is why they wanted to mandate everybody get the shots because they had no control group of unvaxxed. Fact being the bulk of people did not need the vaxx which prevented nothing. As a prophylactic, the vaxx was a failure and came with deadly consequences for a lot of people.
 
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DeSanto said:
What evidence would one need to prove vaccines were killing people?

Or is it something that is just impossible to prove?

Asking for a friend ?
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The vaxx was experimental and new and should be considered causative of elevated death rates until proven otherwise. We do not have to prove that vaxx killed people. They have to prove the vaxx did not!!!
 
Authentic Nouveau said:
  • There’s been around a 600% increase in thrombosis deaths in UK jab recipients for 2021. He reports the case of a 30-year veteran in the industry who’s going to lose his job in April for refusing the jab, yet he works in a mortuary! This industry veteran also reports a 600% increase in thrombosis deaths, and all clients are jabbed. An experienced nurse who works in an agency, ‘Michelle’, has also reported to him that 9/10 cases coming into hospital A&E’s are people who can’t breathe because of blood clots. Tommo: ‘But they’re telling us the opposite’. John: And typically those showing blood clots in the lungs will be retained for treatment; those with clots in the legs, for example, will be sent home. Yet they will die at home because the blood clot will move around in the body. People of ALL ages are coming in having died from these clots. There’s no set age. (Although he’s not seen children in this situation yet.) How can John verify these causes of death? Because he must verify the paperwork that the coroner sends to him, which lists the cause of death. Conversations with family members during the funeral process elicit information, too. Family members often don’t see the connection between the death and their loved one having been jabbed because it happened several weeks or months prior.

600% increase in thrombosis deaths in UK jab recipients for 2021

There’s been around a 600% increase in thrombosis deaths in UK jab recipients for 2021. He reports the case of a 30-year veteran in the industry who’s going to lose his job in April for refusing the jab, yet he works in a mortuary! This industry veteran also reports a 600% increase in thrombosis...
forums.carm.org
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Explain to us why cancer rates have skyrocketed. Is it possible the vaccine somehow multiplies cancer cells? I would like to be able to explain to others.
 
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