Arch Stanton
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Christ's Catholic ChurchAnd who would that be?
Christ's Catholic ChurchAnd who would that be?
Binitarianism among the Jews is much older. They struggled with verses like Genesis 19:24 and Elohim revealing Himself in plural form from the very beginning in Genesis 1:1.
Genesis 19:24
Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;
I'm a Trinitarian because that's how God revealed Himself to us in Scripture. Know thy God and His Word before you know church politics and history.
Christ's Catholic Church
or teacher[verse 8]...have you ever called anyone a teacher?Matthew 23:9--Do not call any man Father on the earth.) This wasn't talking about a Dad it is talking about those in the clergy positions.
Ex 25:18-22 Make two cherubim of beaten gold for the two ends of the cover; make one cherub at one end, and the other at the other end, of one piece with the cover, at each end. The cherubim shall have their wings spread out above, sheltering the cover with them; they shall face each other, with their faces looking toward the cover. This cover you shall then place on top of the ark. In the ark itself you are to put the covenant which I will give you. There I will meet you and there, from above the cover, between the two cherubim on the ark of the covenant, I will tell you all that I command you regarding the Israelites.The OT condemns-statues, icons, graven images--Yet the churches and homes are filled with all 3.
Yes, you should ?You might want to rethink your position.
or teacher[verse 8]...have you ever called anyone a teacher?
1Thess 2:11 As you know, we treated each one of you as a father treats his children,
1 Cor 4:15 Even if you should have countless guides to Christ, yet you do not have many fathers, for I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel.
1 Jn 2:13-14 I am writing to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning.
I am writing to you, young men, because you have conquered the evil one.
I write to you, children, because you know the Father.
I write to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning.
I write to you, young men, because you are strong and the word of God remains in you, and you have conquered the evil one.
Job 29:16 I was a father to the poor; the complaint of the stranger I pursued
Gen 45:8 So it was not really you but God who had me come here; and he has made me a father to Pharaoh, lord of all his household, and ruler over the whole land of Egypt.
2 Kg 2:12 and Elisha saw it happen. He cried out, “My father! my father! Israel’s chariot and steeds!” Then he saw him no longer.
2 Kg 6:21 When the king of Israel saw them, he asked, “Shall I kill them, my father? Shall I kill them?”
Rom 9:10 And not only that, but also when Rebecca had conceived children by one husband, our father Isaac
Acts 7:2 And he replied, “My brothers and fathers, listen. The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham while he was in Mesopotamia, before he had settled in Haran
Acts 7:2-53 (Saint Stephen says father 17 times)
Teacher...
James 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you realize that we will be judged more strictly,
Eph 4:11 And he gave some as apostles, others as prophets, others as evangelists, others as pastors and teachers
Ex 25:18-22 Make two cherubim of beaten gold for the two ends of the cover; make one cherub at one end, and the other at the other end, of one piece with the cover, at each end. The cherubim shall have their wings spread out above, sheltering the cover with them; they shall face each other, with their faces looking toward the cover. This cover you shall then place on top of the ark. In the ark itself you are to put the covenant which I will give you. There I will meet you and there, from above the cover, between the two cherubim on the ark of the covenant, I will tell you all that I command you regarding the Israelites.
Ex 37:7-9 Two cherubim of beaten gold were made for the two ends of the cover; one cherub was at one end, the other at the other end, made of one piece with the cover, at each end. The cherubim had their wings spread out above, sheltering the cover. They faced each other, with their faces looking toward the cover.
Numbers 21:8-9 and the LORD said to Moses: Make a seraph and mount it on a pole, and everyone who has been bitten will look at it and recover. Accordingly Moses made a bronze serpent and mounted it on a pole, and whenever the serpent bit someone, the person looked at the bronze serpent and recovered.
Yes, you should ?
Then you would be Catholic.... One Church, one faith... the pillar and foundation of truth.My position is correct.
They cant even understand simple bible milk after 1700 years.Then you would be Catholic.... One Church, one faith... the pillar and foundation of truth.
Then you would be Catholic.... One Church, one faith... the pillar and foundation of truth.
You must have forgotten to read my post [#24]....Matt 23:9--Do not call any man on earth Father--not to a Dad but to a spiritual teacher-- simple bible milk-- clergy are called Father-The Pope elevates himself into Gods position-Holy Father. how sad.
Ex 25:18-22 Make two cherubim of beaten gold for the two ends of the cover; make one cherub at one end, and the other at the other end, of one piece with the cover, at each end. The cherubim shall have their wings spread out above, sheltering the cover with them; they shall face each other, with their faces looking toward the cover. This cover you shall then place on top of the ark. In the ark itself you are to put the covenant which I will give you. There I will meet you and there, from above the cover, between the two cherubim on the ark of the covenant, I will tell you all that I command you regarding the Israelites.The bible condemns the usage of statues, icons and graven images-yet their churches and homes are filled with all 3.-- just those 3 things proves they live in darkness.
written by man ...There are many books of how catholicism corrupted Gods word through the centuries.
You must have forgotten to read my post [#24]....
1Thess 2:11 As you know, we treated each one of you as a father treats his children,
1 Cor 4:15 Even if you should have countless guides to Christ, yet you do not have many fathers, for I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel.
1 Jn 2:13-14 I am writing to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning.
I am writing to you, young men, because you have conquered the evil one.
I write to you, children, because you know the Father.
I write to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning.
I write to you, young men, because you are strong and the word of God remains in you, and you have conquered the evil one.
Job 29:16 I was a father to the poor; the complaint of the stranger I pursued
Gen 45:8 So it was not really you but God who had me come here; and he has made me a father to Pharaoh, lord of all his household, and ruler over the whole land of Egypt.
2 Kg 2:12 and Elisha saw it happen. He cried out, “My father! my father! Israel’s chariot and steeds!” Then he saw him no longer.
2 Kg 6:21 When the king of Israel saw them, he asked, “Shall I kill them, my father? Shall I kill them?”
Rom 9:10 And not only that, but also when Rebecca had conceived children by one husband, our father Isaac
Acts 7:2 And he replied, “My brothers and fathers, listen. The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham while he was in Mesopotamia, before he had settled in Haran
Acts 7:2-53 (Saint Stephen says father 17 times)
Teacher...
James 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you realize that we will be judged more strictly,
Eph 4:11 And he gave some as apostles, others as prophets, others as evangelists, others as pastors and teachers
Ex 25:18-22 Make two cherubim of beaten gold for the two ends of the cover; make one cherub at one end, and the other at the other end, of one piece with the cover, at each end. The cherubim shall have their wings spread out above, sheltering the cover with them; they shall face each other, with their faces looking toward the cover. This cover you shall then place on top of the ark. In the ark itself you are to put the covenant which I will give you. There I will meet you and there, from above the cover, between the two cherubim on the ark of the covenant, I will tell you all that I command you regarding the Israelites.
Ex 37:7-9 Two cherubim of beaten gold were made for the two ends of the cover; one cherub was at one end, the other at the other end, made of one piece with the cover, at each end. The cherubim had their wings spread out above, sheltering the cover. They faced each other, with their faces looking toward the cover.
Numbers 21:8-9 and the LORD said to Moses: Make a seraph and mount it on a pole, and everyone who has been bitten will look at it and recover. Accordingly Moses made a bronze serpent and mounted it on a pole, and whenever the serpent bit someone, the person looked at the bronze serpent and recovered.
Yes they will. And the bible assures all being lead by babylon the great( worldwide false religion) will be held accountable for all her sins. Catholicism bloodguilt has amassed to the heavens-crusades, inquisition, burning people alive for heresy, the rev war, the civil war, ww1, ww2.--Jesus teaches-love, peace, and unity. mortal govts and blind guides teach kill.written by man ...
Isaiah 44:18 They do not know, do not understand;--- Mt 12:36 I tell you, on the day of judgment people will render an account for every careless word they speak.
their eyes are too clouded to see,
their minds, to perceive.
Mt 7:15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but underneath are ravenous wolves.
Eph 4:14 so that we may no longer be infants, tossed by waves and swept along by every wind of teaching arising from human trickery, from their cunning in the interests of deceitful scheming.
I supplied biblical verses that show your error.You can twist it any way you want. i showed you truth.
You have fallen for man-made teachings of deceit.Yes they will.
My post 32 is 100% accurate-- not the Jesus of the bible-its you being deceived. Your religion also taught the earth was flat for centuries in their darkness. In The Ot it teaches the earth is a sphere( circle). Isaiah 40:22. Jesus would puke over all the death caused by your religion through the centuries.You have fallen for man-made teachings of deceit.
Michael is not Christ...not the Jesus of the bible-its you being deceived. Your religion
The greek wordrendered worship has 5 meanings, obesiance to a king is why they bow to Jesus. Jesus was a mortal when God called him son at his baptism.Michael is not Christ...
“To which of the angels did God ever say, ‘You are my son? . . . Let all the angels of God worship him. . . . to which of the angels has he ever said ‘Sit at my right hand . . . ’” (Heb. 1). Here, the author of Hebrews separates Jesus from angels, and commands the angels to worship him (cf. Rev. 5:13-14,14:6-7).
John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” not your version -- “And the word was a god.”The greek wordrendered worship has 5 meanings, obesiance to a king is why they bow to Jesus. Jesus was a mortal when God called him son at his baptism.
John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” not your version -- “And the word was a god.”
Deuteronomy 32:39 “I alone, am God and there are no gods together with me.”
Exodus 20:3, “Have no other gods besides me,”
Isaiah 43:10 “Before me no god was formed nor shall there be any after me.”
YHWH said those things in the OT. Yes see - i alone -singular, not we alone.