Reconciliation ( The wondrous "Good News" of the Gospel )

[Open Heart]

a great system to show imperfect people their inability
when used Lawfully
unfortunately, it so often is not
the Unbelieving love their excuses more than their Creator and Redeemer

of course God has to do this for people
as no one can of their own accord, certainly not thru Law observance

"And the Lord your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants, to love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, that you may live." Deut 30:6

Nah, its simple. It's a two part deal to be righteous. the first part is to aspire to keep God's commandments. 613 for Jews, seven for non-Jews. the second part is when you stumble, to repent. Easy breezy. No human sacrifice needed, no messiah part of it, no atonement necessary.

 

[American Gothic]

easy breezy

yeah, it's a shame most of Israel don't really believe Moses and the prophets
Deception is a powerful thing

but for His glory
God always preserves among them a remnant of the Faith

 

[Open Heart]

yeah, it's a shame most of Israel don't really believe Moses and the prophets
Deception is a powerful thing

but for His glory
God always preserves among them a remnant of the Faith

Actually "most" of Israel IS religious, accepting Moses and the prophets.

 

[American Gothic]

accepting

rejecting Messiah and the Salvation that God provided
is not believing God or Moses and the prophets

unfortunately, it is the way of most who are by nature Sin
lies seem like truths to them, and the Way, the Truth and the Life is viewed as falsehood

 

[Open Heart]

rejecting Messiah and the Salvation that God provided
is not believing God or Moses and the prophets

unfortunately, it is the way of most who are by nature Sin
lies seem like truths to them, and the Way, the Truth and the Life is viewed as falsehood

sorry, but a one word quote gives no context to your remarks. I had to skip your post.

 

[American Gothic]

at least God is clear in His word and the Law that His work on behalf of hopeless and lost Jewish and gentile sinners
is what actually leads to Life

the Tutor and our work doesn't and never could

 

[Open Heart]

at least God is clear in His word and the Law that His work on behalf of hopeless and lost Jewish and gentile sinners
is what actually leads to Life

the Tutor and our work doesn't and never could

God is clear about many things, including that one should aspire to keep that law which applies to them, and that one should repent when one stumbles. God is clear that if you do those two things you are righteous.

 

[Rachel Redux]

Nah, its simple. It's a two part deal to be righteous. the first part is to aspire to keep God's commandments. 613 for Jews, seven for non-Jews. the second part is when you stumble, to repent. Easy breezy. No human sacrifice needed, no messiah part of it, no atonement necessary.

Blood is needed.
Lev 17:11For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life.

 

[Open Heart]

Blood is needed.
Lev 17:11For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life.

This verse explains why blood atones. It does NOT demand that ONLY blood atones.

We know for example, that the poor regularly atoned with grain offerings -- no blood there. Deal with it.

 

[Rachel Redux]

Never mind...I found it.

 

[Jewjitzu]

if the God that created the Universe, Earth, Life, and Mankind
wanted to live a life as a Man and
take the penalty for Sin upon Himself
then God certainly could do that

that's Way better than Mosaic law

But He said He didn't. That's in the Mosaic law.

Deut 32:4
The Rock, His work is perfect; For all His ways are justice; A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, Just and right is He.

You see, He can't take on sin, because He has no sin and can't pay the responsibility for them.