Romans 8:28-30, The Golden Chain of Salvation for those already "in Christ".

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(Rom 8:28) And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.
(Rom 8:29) For whom He foreknew, He also predestinated to be conformed to the image of His Son, for Him to be the First-born among many brothers.
(Rom 8:30) But whom He predestinated, these He also called; and whom He called, those He also justified. And whom He justified, these He also glorified.

Romans 8:28-30, in fact the entire Chapter 8, is solely about saved people. These are believers "in Christ" who are indwelt and regenerated. The historical context is that believers are witnessing loved ones being butchered for their faith and Paul wants to console his audience and to encourage them to stay the course by explaining to them their standing with God and the glory that awaits them.

Notice that "Glorified" is past tense so it's a perspective of God from a future standpoint, looking back in time (past tense for God),

God foreknew (from His prespective, προέγνω) or foreknows (from our perspective) that believers (Paul's audience) are predestined to be conformed to the Image of Christ. A critical factor to note is that one is known (γνωσθέντες) by God only after one comes out of his former ways (Gal 4:9). That does not detract from God's omniscience. It means that we are now relationally known by God now that we are His adopted sons through Christ. This clearly shows that Rom 8:28-30 is about the guaranteed future of the believer ONLY, not about lost people being elected to glorification.

The calling is vocational as all Christians are Called by God (Eph 4:1, 2 Tim 1:9), and Paul even refers to them as the Called-Out ones (Rom 1:6). The Roman audience is already saved so Paul is not referring to a Gospel calling when he mentions "Called" in Rom 8:28-30. Paul exhorts them to walk worthy of the calling with which they are called by God. They do that through their God preordained good works, such as correctly teaching, preaching, and passing on the Word of God, for the purposes of spreading the Kingdom of God on Earth.

To be Justified is after one believes (Acts 13:39) which is the case here with all believers.

To be Glorified is the believer's Predestination to Adoption (Eph 1:5), to the Redemption of the Body (Rom 8:23).
 
(Rom 8:28) And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.
(Rom 8:29) For whom He foreknew, He also predestinated to be conformed to the image of His Son, for Him to be the First-born among many brothers.
(Rom 8:30) But whom He predestinated, these He also called; and whom He called, those He also justified. And whom He justified, these He also glorified.

Romans 8:28-30, in fact the entire Chapter 8, is solely about saved people. These are believers "in Christ" who are indwelt and regenerated. The historical context is that believers are witnessing loved ones being butchered for their faith and Paul wants to console his audience and to encourage them to stay the course by explaining to them their standing with God and the glory that awaits them.

Notice that "Glorified" is past tense so it's a perspective of God from a future standpoint, looking back in time (past tense for God),

God foreknew (from His prespective, προέγνω) or foreknows (from our perspective) that believers (Paul's audience) are predestined to be conformed to the Image of Christ. A critical factor to note is that one is known (γνωσθέντες) by God only after one comes out of his former ways (Gal 4:9). That does not detract from God's omniscience. It means that we are now relationally known by God now that we are His adopted sons through Christ. This clearly shows that Rom 8:28-30 is about the guaranteed future of the believer ONLY, not about lost people being elected to glorification.

The calling is vocational as all Christians are Called by God (Eph 4:1, 2 Tim 1:9), and Paul even refers to them as the Called-Out ones (Rom 1:6). The Roman audience is already saved so Paul is not referring to a Gospel calling when he mentions "Called" in Rom 8:28-30. Paul exhorts them to walk worthy of the calling with which they are called by God. They do that through their God preordained good works, such as correctly teaching, preaching, and passing on the Word of God, for the purposes of spreading the Kingdom of God on Earth.

To be Justified is after one believes (Acts 13:39) which is the case here with all believers.

To be Glorified is the believer's Predestination to Adoption (Eph 1:5), to the Redemption of the Body (Rom 8:23).
Now you’ve done it you kept Romans 8 in context. Get ready for conflation, out of context rebuttals, proof texting, 1000 unrelated questions, EDITED BY MOD--BORDERLINE RULE 22.
 
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It's very interesting that all variations of the term foreknow have to do with a close relationship with God. Whether it's Christ, sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, His elect Israel, it is always those who are in a relationship with Him through Christ.

Acts 2:23 this One given to you by the before-determined counsel and foreknowledge of God, you have taken and by lawless hands, crucifying Him, you put Him to death;
Rom 8:29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestinated to be conformed to the image of His Son, for Him to be the First-born among many brothers.
Rom 11:2 God did not thrust out His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture said in Elijah, how he pleaded with God against Israel, saying,
1Pet 1:2 according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in sanctification of the Spirit, to obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ. May grace and peace be multiplied to you.
1Pet 1:20 indeed having been foreknown before the foundation of the world, but revealed in the last times for you,

It also shines a light on the person who was manifesting many "works" through Christ's name and yet he was told that Christ never knew him. But doesn't God have omniscience? Yes, but for God to know someone he must be "in Christ" for him to be known or foreknown by God.

Matt 7:23 And then I will say to them I never knew you! Depart from Me, those working lawlessness!
 
(Rom 8:28) And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.
(Rom 8:29) For whom He foreknew, He also predestinated to be conformed to the image of His Son, for Him to be the First-born among many brothers.
(Rom 8:30) But whom He predestinated, these He also called; and whom He called, those He also justified. And whom He justified, these He also glorified.

Romans 8:28-30, in fact the entire Chapter 8, is solely about saved people. These are believers "in Christ" who are indwelt and regenerated. The historical context is that believers are witnessing loved ones being butchered for their faith and Paul wants to console his audience and to encourage them to stay the course by explaining to them their standing with God and the glory that awaits them.

Notice that "Glorified" is past tense so it's a perspective of God from a future standpoint, looking back in time (past tense for God),

God foreknew (from His prespective, προέγνω) or foreknows (from our perspective) that believers (Paul's audience) are predestined to be conformed to the Image of Christ. A critical factor to note is that one is known (γνωσθέντες) by God only after one comes out of his former ways (Gal 4:9). That does not detract from God's omniscience. It means that we are now relationally known by God now that we are His adopted sons through Christ. This clearly shows that Rom 8:28-30 is about the guaranteed future of the believer ONLY, not about lost people being elected to glorification.

The calling is vocational as all Christians are Called by God (Eph 4:1, 2 Tim 1:9), and Paul even refers to them as the Called-Out ones (Rom 1:6). The Roman audience is already saved so Paul is not referring to a Gospel calling when he mentions "Called" in Rom 8:28-30. Paul exhorts them to walk worthy of the calling with which they are called by God. They do that through their God preordained good works, such as correctly teaching, preaching, and passing on the Word of God, for the purposes of spreading the Kingdom of God on Earth.

To be Justified is after one believes (Acts 13:39) which is the case here with all believers.

To be Glorified is the believer's Predestination to Adoption (Eph 1:5), to the Redemption of the Body (Rom 8:23).
Good job with the passage in Roman’s 8, spot on . ??
 
Now that's twisting!
You don't think "glorified" is a past tense word?
Or do you think your glorification has already taken place?
Or do you think that God is bound by space and time and not able to look back from the future?
What form of twisting are you indulging in?
 
Its called a mess
Your Calvinist presuppositions are flooding your mind to the extent that they force you to reject anything else, including Biblical verses. You need to take charge of your beliefs and test their validity against what the Bible says.
 
I accept all Bible verses.
Ok. Let's zero in on Gal 4:9. Do you acknowledge that one is known by God only AFTER one comes out of his former ways? Note that this does not detract from God's omniscience. It means that we are now relationally known by God now that we are sons of God through Christ.

For more detailed information about that see Post #5.
Your incoherent illogical mess of you make of them is to be rejected however.
 
Ok. Let's zero in on Gal 4:9. Do you acknowledge that one is known by God only AFTER one comes out of his former ways? Note that this does not detract from God's omniscience. It means that we are now relationally known by God now that we are sons of God through Christ.

For more detailed information about that see Post #5.
No. God knows His sheep and they come when they are called
 
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No. God knows His sheep and they come when they come.
There you go. You are outright rejecting Gal 4:9. What needs to be done at all times is harmonize verses, not to reject certain verses in favor of other verses. Give harmonization a chance. See if you can harmonize Gal 4:9 with the Bible sheep verses.
 
There you go. You are outright rejecting Gal 4:9. What needs to be done at all times is harmonize verses, not to reject certain verses in favor of other verses. Give harmonization a chance. See if you can harmonize Gal 4:9 with the Bible sheep verses.
I stand by what I said. God knows His sheep and they come when they are called. They were once lost but now are found. The one who needs to harmonize is you. Obviously the relationship changes after we come to Him.
 
You don't think "glorified" is a past tense word?
Or do you think your glorification has already taken place?
Or do you think that God is bound by space and time and not able to look back from the future?
What form of twisting are you indulging in?
So much for the Omni’s lol
 
It's very interesting that all variations of the term foreknow have to do with a close relationship with God. Whether it's Christ, sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, His elect Israel, it is always those who are in a relationship with Him through Christ.

Acts 2:23 this One given to you by the before-determined counsel and foreknowledge of God, you have taken and by lawless hands, crucifying Him, you put Him to death;
Rom 8:29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestinated to be conformed to the image of His Son, for Him to be the First-born among many brothers.
Rom 11:2 God did not thrust out His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture said in Elijah, how he pleaded with God against Israel, saying,
1Pet 1:2 according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in sanctification of the Spirit, to obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ. May grace and peace be multiplied to you.
1Pet 1:20 indeed having been foreknown before the foundation of the world, but revealed in the last times for you,

It also shines a light on the person who was manifesting many "works" through Christ's name and yet he was told that Christ never knew him. But doesn't God have omniscience? Yes, but for God to know someone he must be "in Christ" for him to be known or foreknown by God.

Matt 7:23 And then I will say to them I never knew you! Depart from Me, those working lawlessness!
Excellent insight into the scriptures and tying them together.
 
(Rom 8:28) And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.
(Rom 8:29) For whom He foreknew, He also predestinated to be conformed to the image of His Son, for Him to be the First-born among many brothers.
(Rom 8:30) But whom He predestinated, these He also called; and whom He called, those He also justified. And whom He justified, these He also glorified.

Romans 8:28-30, in fact the entire Chapter 8, is solely about saved people. These are believers "in Christ" who are indwelt and regenerated. The historical context is that believers are witnessing loved ones being butchered for their faith and Paul wants to console his audience and to encourage them to stay the course by explaining to them their standing with God and the glory that awaits them.

Notice that "Glorified" is past tense so it's a perspective of God from a future standpoint, looking back in time (past tense for God),

God foreknew (from His prespective, προέγνω) or foreknows (from our perspective) that believers (Paul's audience) are predestined to be conformed to the Image of Christ. A critical factor to note is that one is known (γνωσθέντες) by God only after one comes out of his former ways (Gal 4:9). That does not detract from God's omniscience. It means that we are now relationally known by God now that we are His adopted sons through Christ. This clearly shows that Rom 8:28-30 is about the guaranteed future of the believer ONLY, not about lost people being elected to glorification.

The calling is vocational as all Christians are Called by God (Eph 4:1, 2 Tim 1:9), and Paul even refers to them as the Called-Out ones (Rom 1:6). The Roman audience is already saved so Paul is not referring to a Gospel calling when he mentions "Called" in Rom 8:28-30. Paul exhorts them to walk worthy of the calling with which they are called by God. They do that through their God preordained good works, such as correctly teaching, preaching, and passing on the Word of God, for the purposes of spreading the Kingdom of God on Earth.

To be Justified is after one believes (Acts 13:39) which is the case here with all believers.

To be Glorified is the believer's Predestination to Adoption (Eph 1:5), to the Redemption of the Body (Rom 8:23).
Can you sum up your point in a sentence, or two?
 
Your Calvinist presuppositions are flooding your mind

Worthless rhetoric.

to the extent that they force you to reject anything else, including Biblical verses.

We don't "reject" ANY "Biblical verses".

You need to take charge of your beliefs and test their validity against what the Bible says.

We have.
That's how we know Calvinism is Biblical truth, and that you are wrong.

Have a nice day!
 
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