Serious Question for Atheists

[stiggy wiggy]

Why do peaches taste so good?

 

[Temujin]

Why do peaches taste so good?

Bred by peach farmers over millennia. Though personally, I don't like them.

 

[CrowCross]

Bred by peach farmers over millennia. Though personally, I don't like them.

That would be an example of intelligent design.

 

[Temujin]

That would be an example of intelligent design.

By human beings, yes. Wild fruit is pathetic in comparison.

 

[SteveB]

Why do peaches taste so good?

apparently a magical, non existent accident just so happened to have caused them to accidentally be forced to taste good.


Personally, I'd say that YHVH created them to be delicious.

Definitely better than the oops, I slipped and fell.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Bred by peach farmers over millennia.

So before peach farmers came on the scene, peaches weren't tasty?

Though personally, I don't like them.

Then you get a separate question:

Why are apples so tasty?

 

[SteveB]

So before peach farmers came on the scene, peaches weren't tasty?



Then you get a separate question:

Why are apples so tasty?

Careful, he may despise apples too.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

By human beings, yes. Wild fruit is pathetic in comparison.

So some guy intelligently designed peaches to be tasty? Who was he and how did he do it?

 

[Temujin]

So before peach farmers came on the scene, peaches weren't tasty?

Peaches as we know them didn't exist before peach farmers came on the scene.

Then you get a separate question:

Why are apples so tasty?

Same reason. Bred into thousands of varieties over millennia. Some heritage varieties are available from specialist nurseries. New varieties can be found on motorway verges, the hybrid offspring of discarded apple cores. The original apple variety is lost in history as it was so rubbish.

 

[Temujin]

So some guy intelligently designed peaches to be tasty? Who was he and how did he do it?

Not some guy. Generations of guys, or women. As they lived in the neolithic, I don't know them personally. Their modern equivalents can be found on Google or working for corporate agriculture. I suggest you go to Georgia and ask around.

 

[Temujin]

Careful, he may despise apples too.

I don't despise peaches, I'm just not fond of them. The climate in the UK is perfect for apples, however. The best varieties in the world a grown here. I have six different apple trees in my own garden, maintaining the age old tradition of human cultivation of food crops.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Peaches as we know them didn't exist before peach farmers came on the scene.

So the peaches whose acquaintances you never made used to taste lousy? How do you know this?

Same reason. Bred into thousands of varieties over millennia. Some heritage varieties are available from specialist nurseries. New varieties can be found on motorway verges, the hybrid offspring of discarded apple cores. The original apple variety is lost in history as it was so rubbish.

So all the fruit eaten by people used to taste lousy? Why did they eat lousy tasting fruit?

 

[Temujin]

So the peaches whose acquaintances you never made used to taste lousy? How do you know this?

Science.

So all the fruit eaten by people used to taste lousy? Why did they eat lousy tasting fruit?

Better than starving. A better question: Why did they feel the need to improve the food crops that were available wild in nature?

 

[stiggy wiggy]

I suggest you go to Georgia and ask around.

I live in Georgia. And I can't find anyone to ask if you are correct in your implication that before scientists made them tasty peaches tasted lousy. Nor can I find anyone here in Georgia to tell me why anyone would eat them if they did taste so lousy.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Science.

Science talks to you about how peaches used to taste lousy?

Better than starving. A better question: Why did they feel the need to improve the food crops that were available wild in nature?

Why not? If they liked the taste, they'd surely like it even tastier.

 

[Temujin]

I live in Georgia. And I can't find anyone to ask if you are correct in your implication that before scientists made them tasty peaches tasted lousy. Nor can I find anyone here in Georgia to tell me why anyone would eat them if they did taste so lousy.

That's Georgians for you.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

That's Georgians for you.

We praise God for them.

 

[Temujin]

Science talks to you about how peaches used to taste lousy?

Science shows all of us how food crops of all types have improved over time, and continue to be improved.

Why not? If they liked the taste, they'd surely like it even tastier.

Sure, it needed improving. Not just the taste. Crop yields, disease resistance, ease of cultivation, etc.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Science.

But you don't like peaches, so science let you down.

 

[Furion]

Science shows all of us how food crops of all types have improved over time, and continue to be improved.

Sure, it needed improving. Not just the taste. Crop yields, disease resistance, ease of cultivation, etc.

All you need is empirical evidence.

Pretend I'm from Missouri, give me a peach from before the unnamed people allegedly made the peach tasty, and one today, and we can all do a taste test.

Oh noes! You can't do it. Such a shame.