Temujin
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In the same way that you were told, several times, not 24 hours ago. Up your meds.So how did the giraffe get his long neck?
In the same way that you were told, several times, not 24 hours ago. Up your meds.So how did the giraffe get his long neck?
No one can account for it.In the same way that you were told, several times, not 24 hours ago. Up your meds.
You are lying again. Why do you keep doing this?No one can account for it.
I guess the best you have Lamarckism.
How did the giraffe get its long neck?You are lying again. Why do you keep doing this?
Wrong. There's a niche for long necked animals. There's competition for food lower down. Giraffes are browsers not grazers, and no there isn't plenty of food. Have you never been to the savannah? Plus, evolution isn't planned. There's no goal in sight. Just the tallest of the giraffes ancestors fed best, reproduced best, out-competed their shorter relatives, and thus in time grew longer necks, and legs. The "special " valves evolved at the same time as the neck. The real give away is the vagus nerve. That demonstrates conclusively a gradual evolution not a sudden creation by an intelligent being. You picked the wrong example in the giraffe. It's a slam dunk for evolution.How did the giraffe get its long neck?
There was no reason for a longer neck as there was plenty of food at the ground and lower levels even up to 10 feet. A few giraffes that were a foot taller does not provide any survival advantage, as they cannot reach the upper vegetation.
And a longer neck presents all kinds of blood pressure and blood flow problems between a giraffe with head bent to the ground and a neck stretched up.
In fact, the giraffe has special valves in its neck to allow such, but how did they evolve?
That change is too complex to have evolved all at once and provides no advantage until all in place.
In fact, it would cause a real problem with survival if only partially formed.
So, God made the giraffe with the longer neck and the special valves.
Now you are even worse than Lamarckism.Wrong. There's a niche for long necked animals. There's competition for food lower down. Giraffes are browsers not grazers, and no there isn't plenty of food. Have you never been to the savannah? Plus, evolution isn't planned. There's no goal in sight. Just the tallest of the giraffes ancestors fed best, reproduced best, out-competed their shorter relatives, and thus in time grew longer necks, and legs. The "special " valves evolved at the same time as the neck. The real give away is the vagus nerve. That demonstrates conclusively a gradual evolution not a sudden creation by an intelligent being. You picked the wrong example in the giraffe. It's a slam dunk for evolution.
False. A grassy plain with no trees shows you are wrong and that you weren't thinking very much about your answer.First longer necks do not provide any advantage as there is an abundance of food at all levels.
Which is precisely why creationism is not science. Since God can do anything, and can explain anything there are no possible falsifications. Any unfalsifiable ideas cannot be science.Finally there is nothing in all creation that cannot be explained by ALMIGHTY GOD.
Untrue.Now you are even worse than Lamarckism.
First longer necks do not provide any advantage as there is an abundance of food at all levels.
No, that's Lamarkism, as you have been told. Stop lying.So the giraffes just stretched their necks and successive generations had longer necks.
Untrue. Necks lengthen gradually. As they do, structures to help blood circulation are beneficial to those that have them. That's how evolution works.But now you have the valves are evolving to support the evolving longer necks.
The valves provide no advantage whatsoever until all is in place. Evolution cannot jump. That is nuts.
Untrue.So blind mutation errors had the intelligence to plan ahead the eventual goal of providing valves,
On the contrary. It explains it perfectly, as it illustrates the evolution of the giraffe back to a fish ancestor.And the vagus nerve is just another thing that evolution could never explain ever.
Miracles are not science. He is apparently unable to engender honesty, humility or intelligence in those who claim to follow Him.Finally there is nothing in all creation that cannot be explained by ALMIGHTY GOD.
Until “science” can disprove the existence of God Almighty, which even atheists acknowledge cannot be PROVED, then “science“ cannot exclude miraculous things beucase that is what God can do.Untrue.
No, that's Lamarkism, as you have been told. Stop lying.
Untrue. Necks lengthen gradually. As they do, structures to help blood circulation are beneficial to those that have them. That's how evolution works.
Untrue.
On the contrary. It explains it perfectly, as it illustrates the evolution of the giraffe back to a fish ancestor.
Miracles are not science. He is apparently unable to engender honesty, humility or intelligence in those who claim to follow Him.
Nonsense. If a material explanation exists, event of unproven, it will be preferable to a miraculous explanation. Miracles have no place in science by definition. They deny science and seek to usurp it as a rational explanation of the world. You cannot believe in both science and magic at the same time. One is reality, one is fantasy.Until “science” can disprove the existence of God Almighty, which even atheists acknowledge cannot be PROVED, then “science“ cannot exclude miraculous things beucase that is what God can do.
No you have a theory and thought pattern worse than Lamarckism.
So explain Venus rotating backwards, Uranus on its side, the giraffes long neck and chimps and people with a different chromosome count.Nonsense. If a material explanation exists, event of unproven, it will be preferable to a miraculous explanation. Miracles have no place in science by definition. They deny science and seek to usurp it as a rational explanation of the world. You cannot believe in both science and magic at the same time. One is reality, one is fantasy.
As you very well know, you have had answers to all these questions. Answers that you cannot cope with, cannot refute, cannot even acknowledge. You are reduced to asking the same questions time and again in the folorn hope that you will get an answer you will be able to process. What is wrong is not the answers that you have been given, but your brittle, rigid and fundamentally flawed view of the world, warped by creationist lies. What you demonstrate here is not well-founded opposition to evolution, but a wasted life.So explain Venus rotating backwards, Uranus on its side, the giraffes long neck and chimps and people with a different chromosome count.
There are very many more.
Please post any.As you very well know, you have had answers to all these questions. Answers that you cannot cope with, cannot refute, cannot even acknowledge. You are reduced to asking the same questions time and again in the folorn hope that you will get an answer you will be able to process. What is wrong is not the answers that you have been given, but your brittle, rigid and fundamentally flawed view of the world, warped by creationist lies. What you demonstrate here is not well-founded opposition to evolution, but a wasted life.
Already done. It's us that is laughing. You are just failing. All you are holding back is an honest acceptance that you have been answered, assuming that you have any honesty to hold back.Please post any.
I promise I will hold back my laughter.
Chimps have 48 chromosomes and mankind 46.Already done. It's us that is laughing. You are just failing. All you are holding back is an honest acceptance that you have been answered, assuming that you have any honesty to hold back.
You have been told the answer to this at least twice.Chimps have 48 chromosomes and mankind 46.
Supposedly they are descended from a common ancestor.
But how could this have happened through evolution given sexual reproduction?
Just show how this plays out for 20 generations of offspring.
Start with 48 chromosomes.
A primate with 48 by some weird event has an offspring with 46 .
The offspring then mates with another primate of the same species which of course has all 48.
Now each donates 1/2 and then what?
How many chromosomes from each parent does the first offspring have?
24 from each or 24 from one and 23 from the other?
How could that offspring even survive?
How did it ever have an offspring?
Who did the first offspring mate with if it is not another primate with 48 chromosomes?
How could 2 chromosomes fuse if their ends are protected?
Keep going until 20 generations.
Or the over 1 million differences between any two humans.And do not forget the over 100 million differences in the DNA between chimps and people.
Wrong. You have been shown this as well. Stop lying about facts. You just show yourself up.And of course, there can be no common descent if the chromosome counts are different for any proposed species pairs.
I have proved that macro evolution is a lie.
No, you have done no such thing. You have told lies about abiogenesis and the Big Bang. You have ignored facts given to you about these things, but you keep lying. Why is that?And I have also proved abiogenies is impossible without God and the Big Bang too.
Why does this need to be explained AGAIN? You haven't acknowledged the other times this has already been done.So what was the chromosome makeup of the first primate with the fused chromosome, which itself need to be explained?
Why should someone who claims without evidence that reality is the result of magic, be entitled to demand specifics about a process they don't understand, acknowledge or tell the truth about?And its mate and its their offspring?
And what was the first offsprings mate's chromosome makeup?
Be very specific in all the details.
So you skipped all generations and used false analogy.You have been told the answer to this at least twice.
Or the over 1 million differences between any two humans.
Wrong. You have been shown this as well. Stop lying about facts. You just show yourself up.
No, you have done no such thing. You have told lies about abiogenesis and the Big Bang. You have ignored facts given to you about these things, but you keep lying. Why is that?
Why does this need to be explained AGAIN? You haven't acknowledged the other times this has already been done.
Why should someone who claims without evidence that reality is the result of magic, be entitled to demand specifics about a process they don't understand, acknowledge or tell the truth about?