what would you accept as evidence?
all we have is links
would you accept the position statement from NASA on climate change?
The Climate Is So Bad..........
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all we have is links
would you accept the position statement from NASA on climate change?
Reformedguy
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Bla bla bla. Same stupidity. Different day. 97% agree with me crap.
Reformedguy
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Maybe. Except they are not climatologists. Like you
Hypatia_Alexandria
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A hotter planet is going to adversely impact on nearly every aspect of human society including agriculture, health [as disease vectors move into new areas] infrastructure, economies, with potential resource wars over basics like water, mass migration as people move out of areas that are no longer habitable, and of course the environment.
I've just encountered a real-life "Cranky Uncle"!
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That is an unknown.
A stupid question that ignores the reality of our present situation.
Reformedguy
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Unknown? Lol How do uou know ots abnormal then?A hotter planet is going to adversely impact on nearly every aspect of human society including agriculture, health [as disease vectors move into new areas] infrastructure, economies, with potential resource wars over basics like water, mass migration as people move out of areas that are no longer habitable, and of course the environment.
I've just encountered a real-life "Cranky Uncle"!
Homepage - Cranky Uncle
The Cranky Uncle game uses cartoons and critical thinking to fight misinformation. The game was developed by University of Melbourne scientist John Cook, in collaboration with creative agency Goodbeast. The game is now available for free on iPhone and Android. … Continued
That is an unknown.
A stupid question that ignores the reality of our present situation.
Stupid because you have no idea. Neither does anyone else.
Hypatia_Alexandria
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We are seeing what is happening to the planet and how that is going adversely impact on human society. Bear in mind there are some 8 billion of us on this planet.
Climate change can be assessed by a variety of scientific disciplines including meteorology and atmospheric chemistry, through geochemistry, oceanography, and ecology. Core sampling for example, gives us indications of the climate at different periods in the earth's history.
Reformedguy
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Great. That does not address my question.
That's great. That does not yell me what a normal climate looks like.
Hypatia_Alexandria
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You are asking a stupid question.
Reformedguy
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Of course it is. Lol Good talk
Hypatia_Alexandria
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Well I am glad you agreed with me that you pose stupid questions.
Because you think something is a fact doesn’t make it so.
Flat earthers believe the earth is flat but their naive belief doesn’t make the earth flat
Reformedguy
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Because you cannot answer. If the climate, as you nuts claim, is warmer than it should be then it seems reasonable to ask how warm should it be?
Hypatia_Alexandria
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Oh for goodness sake. Do you imagine there is some global conspiracy among scientists determined to pretend that these events are occurring?
In the past 90 years the earth has been hotter than at any other period in the last millennium and in the past few decades that warming has dramatically accelerated. Data from 2002 showed that nineteen of the hottest years on record occurred between 1980 and the late 1990s and as recorded in the early years of this millennium the earth was warmer than it had been for 90% of its 4.6 billion year history.
This rising temperature trend in not a mere climatic blip nor can it be explained entirely by variations in the output of the sun [as some would like to do]; although the sun clearly does have a significant effect on this planet's climate. What we are seeing is over two centuries of pollution which is enclosing the planet in an insulating blanket of carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, and various other greenhouse gases. As perm-frost melts as a result of increased temperatures [buildings in Siberia are showing cracks as the ground beneath them melts] more methane is released into the atmosphere.
Positive feedback is something that is happening and while the planet will not be entirely ice-free; what our children and grand-children are facing is lethal heatwaves and where temperatures in excess of 50°C [122°F] in the tropics are unexceptional; a world where winters at temperate latitudes have dwindled to virtually nothing; and baking hot summers will become normal. Where the oceans will have heated [possibly to the point of no return] and temperatures in the Arctic circle of 30°C+ [86°F+] will be unremarkable.
christ_undivided
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Accept your arbitrary conclusion?
We know that coral has been impacted by natural events. You are arbitrarily blaming humans. I'm not saying they didn't cause issue. I am saying your sample to too small to know otherwise.
Arbitrary choices are modern liberal's "facts".
christ_undivided
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They are no more accurate than thousands of newspaper articles from history past. There are good people using this evidence to battle your false claims. Your arbitrary choices are not facts.
christ_undivided
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That is a lie. I embrace Science. I was taught by Science to be a skeptic. That was the "cornerstone" principle of Science when I was a young man.
NOW, all you have to do to prove a point is to find someone who agrees with you.
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Hypatia_Alexandria
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That was one example. I will repeat what I wrote above to another contributor.
In the past 90 years the earth has been hotter than at any other period in the last millennium and in the past few decades that warming has dramatically accelerated. Data from 2002 showed that nineteen of the hottest years on record occurred between 1980 and the late 1990s and as recorded in the early years of this millennium the earth was warmer than it had been for 90% of its 4.6 billion year history.
This rising temperature trend in not a mere climatic blip nor can it be explained entirely by variations in the output of the sun [as some would like to do]; although the sun clearly does have a significant effect on this planet's climate. What we are seeing is over two centuries of pollution which is enclosing the planet in an insulating blanket of carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, and various other greenhouse gases. As perm-frost melts as a result of increased temperatures [buildings in Siberia are showing cracks as the ground beneath them melts] more methane is released into the atmosphere.
Positive feedback is something that is happening and while the planet will not be entirely ice-free; what our children and grand-children are facing is lethal heatwaves and where temperatures in excess of 50°C [122°F] in the tropics are unexceptional; a world where winters at temperate latitudes have dwindled to virtually nothing; and baking hot summers will become normal. Where the oceans will have heated [possibly to the point of no return] and temperatures in the Arctic circle of 30°C+ [86°F+] will be unremarkable.
Do you want to dismiss any of that?
christ_undivided
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Lies. You can't know this. All you can do is sample small data sets within a vast amount of time. It is very arrogant of you to claim you know all there is to know over a 1000 year period.
Thanks
Lies. We have historical evidence to prove this is not true. We have them from newspaper articles and written records that your "scientist" can't manipulate. The data you're reference is manipulated data. The raw data is not being used because it was arbitrarily discarded.
I'll stop here and let you "catch up".
Hypatia_Alexandria
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From research involving sampling [including sea sediment] experts can identify the climate over a prolonged period.
What is not true? And what historical evidence are you citing?
What written records?
On what evidence?
On what evidence?
We get it
You think all of the world’s scientists are lying to us about climate change
scientists from every country and every political position
I think that’s absurd
the motivations of the climate deniers are obvious and their dishonesty is clear to anyone that fact-checks them