The promise of God will always be there.
Yes, the actual promise of God will but not what man does apart from what God promised and give the conditions for receiving and once again, Moses very clearly prophesied that God required them to repent and turn back to God with all their hearts in order to receive that promise.
Sorry but there is no way around this, unless of course you want to change what God himself stated about it.
Jesus comes back twice....in the rapture then again 7 years later when Jesus who is God physically stands on the Mt. of Olives after getting off His white horse.
Nonsense, where did either Jesus or his NT writers ever say he would come back twice, you are reading that into the scriptures and not out of them and all because you misinterpret other things that Jesus stated to mean something that they never did.
The tribulation period is to save Israel.
Sorry but actually the tribulation will be what God uses to deliver many of his chosen saints from the apostasy and the teachings of the apostasy that they have all be ensared by one way or another.
In fact, it is because the church as fallen into the apostasy that they have fallen into, that God will have to bring his judgment to begin with.
The tribulation will be what God uses to separates and purifies by the truth those who really belong to him from those who don't,
Read Daniel chapter 12, for he very clearly reveals this in that chapter.
Those who don't really belong to him no matter how religious they are, will suffer his judgments with the rest of the ungodly and this will be their tribulation, but those who do belong to him will be persecuted by those who don't and this will be the only tribulation that they will see and experience period
10“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn.
Let me ask you this, didn't your sin pierce God spiritually and his Son phyisally?
Also where do you see in this text that this means that it will only be at seeing Jesus that these will be saved initiailly.
Repentance and sorrow for sin only begins at our initial salvation but it continues all through our lives if we have been truly saved and there is nothing whatsover in this passage that would reveals that those being spoken of will only be saved at that point.
All it reveals is that there will be a deeper repentance and the OT is clarified by the NT and not the other way around.
If I were you I'd be scheming on how to not be part of the 1/4 of people not killed by the "pale or green horse" of Rev 6....then part of the 1/3 who are killed later on....If I were you I'd be grasping for life as there is no life in a Jesus who isn't God.
And if I were you, I would watch what you pronounce upon others, lest it comes back on you and which it will if you don't wake up from your brainwashing and stupor to receive the truth that Moses and Paul revealed in the passages that aI gave you.
Now once again, how many Olive Tree does Paul speak of in Romans 11?
Come on now, for you know as well as I do that Paul only speaks of one single and solitary Olive Tree and it is also understood that this is referring to the Israel of God and Paul very clearly reveals that it consists of both Jew and Gentile together as one.
He does this in Epesians 2:11-22 also, read it and learn the truth.
You are one of the most ignorant and arrogant posters who post here. This verse has been explained to you numerous times and all you do is spit on the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ...no way would I want to be you.
Sorry but arrogance isn't determined by whether or not someone excepts with someone else says is true or not true but instead it is determined by whether someone receives or rejects what God says when it is pointed out to them from the actual scriptures.
Also, there is a big big difference between true confidence in what one believes from what God has revealed from the word by his Spirit or the arrogance that comes from false confidence that occurs from carnal human reasoning and twisting the scriptures to make them fit with what you only want to believe that they are saying when they are not.
A better word to use is "departure" as used in the earlier bible translation...before the Catholic Church changed the word...
3Let no man deceiue you by any meanes: for that day shall not come, except there come a
departing first, and that that man of sinne be disclosed, euen the sonne of perdition
More nonsense!
So then this is what you arrive at with this carnal human reasoing and twisting with the passage.
2 Thessalonians 2:1 "Now concerning the day of the Lord and our gathering together unto him (the resurrection and rapture of the saints to be with Jesus), let no one deceive you, for that day will not happen untill tere is first a departure (the resurr3ection and rapture of the sainst to be with Jesus).
You better start giving some serious thought to what you are believing and accepting as truth, for what are you ever going to do when what all hell is breaking loose on this planet and like it is getting ready to and what you have been falsely led to believce never happens?
That "departing"...is the rapture you hate so much.
Sorry but this word "apostasy" is never used to speak of departing in the way you are being falsely led to believe it does, but instead it means departing from the truth of God and it is obviously what it means in this text also because it is the means by which the man of lawless arives on the scene.
You already are existing in the delusion...primed to believe the anti-christ is God and not Jesus.
We will soon see who is really delusional and who isn't and if I were in your shoes, I wouldn't want to hasten that day either.
OK, I read it....
23But each in his own turn: Christ the firstfruits; then at His coming, (THE RAPTURE) those who belong to Him.
Paul only speaks of three resurrections here, the first is Christ's himself, and that is past tense, the second is the first fruits and we read aboiut this in Matthew 27:51-54 and that ia also past tense and which leaves only one in the future and he calls this "those who belong to Christ at his coming and the end.
How many comings does Paul mention in this passage therefore?
The answeer in only one period and this will be the end and he actually makes that perfectly clear in the same context.
24Then the end will come,(
after the rapture) when He hands over the kingdom to God the Father after He has destroyed all dominion, authority, and power.
Exactly and upon that note, you also just shot yourself in the foot, becasue the rapture happens when that last enemy of death is destroyed and the the saints are then raptured to be with Christ and Christ delivers the Kingdom of the resurrected and raptured saints up unto God even the Father, this is the end period.
You like to add your own broken theology between the lines....don't cha?
No but to the contrary that is exactly what you do with all of this, but actually it isn't even yours but rather those who you listen to and only then do you make it yours.
Soon enough now, it will be severly tested, for that day is fast approaching now and there won't be any pre trib rapture to deliver you out of it either.
