Calvinism
Billy Bob meets the Calvinist God on Judgment Day
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My logic is sound, your objection to it is irrelevant. The God of the Bible is omniscient and possesses exhaustive foreknowledge of all things. ?
so he elects according to foreknowledge ?
1 Peter 1:2 (KJV)
2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
Yes.
For those whom He FOREKNEW, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. ... Rom 8:29-30.
It's the Biblical view, my view; it is also the Calvinist view. Prior to the foundation of the world, God intimately knew and loved those elected to salvation.
The Calvinist view is based on unconditional election
Correct. God foreknowing those He saves isn't based on their actions. It is based on God setting His love upon them according to the kind intentions of His will.
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TibiasDad
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You're wrong.
It would be folly to try to convince you of that fact when God's words fail to do so first.
We are not saved nor come to faith by our own merit. God calls whom he will to his Salvation.
It is a gift. Not a reward.
In the New Testament predestination is synonymous with Salvation.
You need read the Bible before debating those who do .
It now appears you're here to cause conflict and see how long Christians here will labor to correct your feigned ignorance.
The term for that is , among other terms, POE Trolling.
Yes, it is.
Psalm 135:6
Berean Study Bible
The LORD has made everything for His purpose—even the wicked for the day of disaster.
ReverendRV
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I've gotten to the point I only speak to him from time-to-time when I think he will participate well, or when I think it could benefit the Lurkers...
There are plenty of Posters here who will gladly discuss things with you...
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Theo1689
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Where does the Bible speak of "election to perdition"?
And yes, the elect are saved by grace.
And the condemned are condemned by their works (sins).
Theo1689
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No, it doesn't.
Since Calvinism is NOT defined based on what "Calvin believed", I'm not sure why you need to "remind" us of this, either. It's completely irrelevant.
I'm sure you wouldn't have to when speaking to Calvinists.
Though they would likely assist you in learning the scriptures from whence their doctrine sprang.
Theo1689
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Calvinists don't get their theology from "John Calvin".
Calvinists get their theology from the BIBLE.
Theo1689
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So what?
I'm not John Calvin, so I'm not forced to accept everything (you claim) he allegedly "taught".
I'm sorry, but I've never "ack"ed in my life.
And I'm not the one playing games here.
I'm simply correcting your misrepresentations of Calvinism.
And some people might consider it "cat and mouse games" to claim ignoring a poster, but continuing to respond to their posts, and accuse them of playing "games".