Reformedguy
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Aww.... did I pick on you pope? Pope choice meat? Poor babyThats choice not rotten as what you peddle
Aww.... did I pick on you pope? Pope choice meat? Poor babyThats choice not rotten as what you peddle
So what. WhoopeeIt is not stated for kings (plural)
That certainly beats your rotten meatAww.... did I pick on you pope? Pope choice meat? Poor baby
Actually it's quite sound and compatibilism rules the day.So your argument is weak
that is what
Aww, somebody is getting upset. Time for a vacation? LOLThat certainly beats your rotten meat
not upsetAww, somebody is getting upset. Time for a vacation? LOL
Then your upset and I'm liking it.not upset
just giving you a taste of your own medicine
You gave me verses except for what I asked and then stated what i asked for was self explanatory.Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful
Hebrews 4:12. Source of our thoughts and intentions
1 Samuel 16:7. The Lord looks upon the heart.
Matthew 15:18 whatever comes out of the mouth precedes from the heart.
Psalms 37:4 our desires come from the heart.
And many more.
God turning the heart where He wishes it yo go should be self explanitory. God is soverign over your desires.
NopeThen your upset and I'm liking it.
Certainly, God directs our steps, but without using force.But didn't your post just use that verse to declare that God controls us? rather than just pointing the way?
You are agreeing that God controls us, as that is what I said and you say "certainly"Certainly, God directs our steps, but without using force
How does that work? Control without force? Can you explain from scripture what you mean?
Ok. where does the Bible teach "control"? We can look at those verses and see if they include or imply forceYour question is fallacious.
You ASSUME "control" is "force", and when we reject your assumption, you shift the burden of proof.
Where does the BIBLE teach "control is force"?
A prisoner is controlled by force .
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Ok. where does the Bible teach "control"? We can look at those verses and see if they include or imply force
The word control means there is a force at work to accomplish an action/goal.So you can't show where the Bible teaches "control is force".
Thank you for the admission.
Yup Exodus 11:5The word control means there is a force at work to accomplish an action/goal.
But you sounded as if you thought the Bible had verses that taught something different.
Was there a reason why you doubted that control takes force? What scriptures were you thinking of?