Authority/Responsibility

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According to Catholics:
Catholics did not have an an infallible Canon for its first 1500 years..
so STOP pretending an infallible Canon is needed

Sproul: "The Bible is a fallible collection of infallible books"

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1Thess521 said:
I accept Scripture as the highest authority and the ONLY infallible authority we have.

The chain is only as strong as its weakest link, so we are not infallibly certain that those writings of scripture are God's inspired word, then how can we accept scripture as the highest authority and only infallible authority we have?

 

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and then you got the OT Canon wrong

Why should we believe you that we got the OT Canon wrong?

 

[1Thess521]

Why should we believe you that we got the OT Canon wrong?

Because I agree with what God -breathed wrings God ordained to be kept on God's Holy Temple; while God Incarnate stood in its courtyard

 

[1Thess521]

The chain is only as strong as its weakest link, so we are not infallibly certain that those writings of scripture are God's inspired word, then how can we accept scripture as the highest authority and only infallible authority we have?

weakest link? like you?
QUESTION--->Are you infallibly certain your Church infallible declared a Canon?

 

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weakest link?
QUESTION--->Are you infallible sure your Church infallible declared a Canon?

Yes.

 

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Because I agree with what God -breathed wrings God ordained to be kept on God's Holy Temple; while God Incarnate stood in its courtyard

How do we know what writings were kept in God's Holy Temple?

 

[1Thess521]

How do we know what writings were kept in God's Holy Temple?

they given to an historian who gave us the categories and counts of the scrolls

 

[1Thess521]

Yes.

wow:
I had no idea you thought you were infallible.
Are there many other other inflable people on earth like yourself?
and FYI: I don't believe your self-claim of infallibility either

 

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they given to an historian who gave us the categories and counts of the scrolls

Do you have a source?

 

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wow:
I had no idea you thought you were infallible.
Are there many other other inflable people on earth like yourself?
and FYI: I don't believe your self-claim of infallibility either

I believe that the infallibility rest with the Pope when he is speaking for his chair.

 

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Do you have a source?

yep:
but will it matter you that your deuterocanonical books were not included among the sacred scrolls in God's Temple?

 

[1Thess521]

I believe that the infallibility rest with the Pope when he is speaking for his chair.

i directly asked you
QUESTION--->Are you infallibly sure your Church infallibly declared a Canon?

You answered yes
IOW you are infallibly sure .

 

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yep:
but will it matter you that your deuterocanonical books were not included among the sacred scrolls in God's Temple?

No, but I am not certain that they were not included. My guess too, is that there were more than others books in the Temple that were not included in scripture; the Jews had numerous writings that they used that are not scripture.

 

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No, but I am not certain that they were not included. My guess too, is that there were more than others books in the Temple that were not included in scripture; the Jews had numerous writings that they used that are not scripture.

not in the collection of Sacred Scrolls considered to be Divine
but as you said : it doesn't matter to you

so why ask?

 

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i directly asked you
QUESTION--->Are you infallibly sure your Church infallibly declared a Canon?

You answered yes
IOW you are infallibly sure .

Every Catholic should be infallibly certain.

1Thess521 said:
I accept Scripture as the highest authority and the ONLY infallible authority we have.

So if you are not infallibly certain of the Canon of scripture, then how can you accept scripture as your highest authority and only infallible authority?


This thread is not just about scripture.

So given this why would anyone listen to any other sources that contradict scripture and/or the CCC? Will these other sources be held responsible?

Other sources would also include interpretations of scriptures.

 

[1Thess521]

Every Catholic should be infallibly certain.



So if you are not infallibly certain of the Canon of scripture, then how can you accept scripture as your highest authority and only infallible authority?


This thread is not just about scripture.



Other sources would also include interpretations of scriptures.

I don't think you know what "infallibly certain" means

no human is infallibly certain. about anything

 

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not in the collection of Sacred Scrolls considered to be Divine
but as you said : it doesn't matter to you

so why ask?

I question your statements about the collection of scrolls in the Temple.

We are still left with the NT.

 

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I don't think you know what "infallibly certain" means

no human is infallibly certain. about anything

But you said that you accept scripture as the only infallible authority we have.

1Thess521 said:
I accept Scripture as the highest authority and the ONLY infallible authority we have.

How can you accept scripture as the only infallible authority we have if you are not infallibly certain that those writings are the inspired word of God?

 

[1Thess521]

But you said that you accept scripture as the only infallible authority we have.



How can you accept scripture as the only infallible authority we have if you are not infallibly certain that those writings are the inspired word of God?

because I am not infallibly certain about anything.

 

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I question your statements about the collection of scrolls in the Temple.

We are still left with the NT.

i believe the NT Canon is correct.
now what?