stiggy wiggy
Well-known member
So not when it was written? You just confirmed what I said.
Correct. Not when it was written yet way before you ignorantly claimed there were no chapters.
So not when it was written? You just confirmed what I said.
But my point is the depth of the reaction to when a loved one dies. Religious people - just like non-religious people - act like they're never going to see the deceased again, which is contrary to their theology.It's always a loss when a loved one dies.
The "act like" apologetics eh?But my point is the depth of the reaction to when a loved one dies. Religious people - just like non-religious people - act like they're never going to see the deceased again, which is contrary to their theology.
When atheists say "God," it's easily explainable as something that the culture has instilled in just about everyone, theist and atheist alike, because "God" (as an exclamation, for instance) is part of English. It's trivial in the sense that no one thinks - and I hope you don't - that atheists are somehow being, what, hypocritical when they exclaim "God!"The "act like" apologetics eh?
Why do atheists say "God"?
It's as if they think God exists.
When people die its easily seen as sad. Start thereWhen atheists say "God," it's easily explainable as something that the culture has instilled in just about everyone, theist and atheist alike, because "God" (as an exclamation, for instance) is part of English. It's trivial in the sense that no one thinks - and I hope you don't - that atheists are somehow being, what, hypocritical when they exclaim "God!"
Can you offer us the trivial, easy explanation for why theists who will easily say that they'll be reunited in heaven with loved ones react the same as you'd expect if they actually thought that they would never see the loved one again?
Your reply ignores the distinction on which my point rests, the distinction between being just "regular" sad at not seeing someone for, say, a few years (they're going overseas to a remote location?) and the bone-shattering grief that people often display that is no less than what you'd expect if they thought they'd never see that person again, ever.When people die its easily seen as sad. Start there
You think a Christian should never be sad, and you are sure about it.
I'll stick with understanding the atheist when you understand the Christian. Then again Buddhism is not in view by anybody here so it doesn't really matter.
Oh, you have a distinction.Your reply ignores the distinction on which my point rests, the distinction between being just "regular" sad at not seeing someone for, say, a few years (they're going overseas to a remote location?) and the bone-shattering grief that people often display that is no less than what you'd expect if they thought they'd never see that person again, ever.
Thank you very much.Oh, you have a distinction.
No, not at all. Read my posts again. I've said several times that Christians and atheists react similarly when a loved one dies, a reaction one would expect if the person understood they would never see the loved one again, ever. Christians and atheists. Both. Same world-shaking grief.So you are claiming everyone but Christians are mired in "bone shattering grief" when someone dies?
Are you questioning that people - Christians and atheists (and others, too) often have the most grief they will ever experience when a loved one dies? Are you serious?Sorry but that is not in evidence.
Which again ignores my distention and the specific part of my claim that, typically, people experience no greater grief than when a loved one dies, what you'd expect if they thought they'd never see the loved one again, ever.What is in evidence is people are sad when people die.
We all got notions, don' we?Sounds like argument by notions in your head.
Sure.We all got notions, don' we?
When a Christian says "Bigfoot", are they betraying their beliefs?My notion is when an atheist says God they are betraying their beliefs.
Wrong, for the reasons I've already stated.Sure.
My notion is when an atheist says God they are betraying their beliefs.
Wrong, as evidenced by what I've already stated.Your notion is christians betray their beliefs if they get sad when someone dies.
God only approves of those actions that are consistent with his commands. The only command that we have is to love God and love others after we become Christians. When we first come to God, believe, repent of sins, be baptized and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The OT law of Moses which was for the nation of Israel had been replaced with a new covenant.From an atheist perspective, no Christians have the approval of God for their actions, while all Christians believe that they do, so that criticism doesn't work fro my point of view, though I can see how it does from yours. Sadly some of the greatest atrocities come from one set of Christians trying to show another set just who it is who has God's approval.
Costumes? magic spells? It's only theater if the people are play acting.Why would there be animosity? I like Christians. I love the architecture, the music, the costumes and magic spells. It's real theatre. I just don't believe that it's real. I might envy the simplicity and certainty, but animosity? No.
I could explain baseball to you. It's boring to watch. Worse than soccer.To explain No Trump contracts would be you explaining baseball to me. I suspect it's not worth it for either of us.
"One, no trump" is a term from bridge - slang for a very conservative, cagey bid, I believe.What is "One No-Trump? (Do I really care to know?)
Wrong, as demonstrated by what I've already posted.Wrong, for the reasons I've already stated.
That's pretty close to the atheist idea about sadness, yes.When a Christian says "Bigfoot", are they betraying their beliefs?
Sounds like Temujin. Only he's a cagey liberal."One, no trump" is a term from bridge - slang for a very conservative, cagey bid, I believe.
What do you consider a liberal to be, and what don't you like about that position?Sounds like Temujin. Only he's a cagey liberal.
True enough, but it's the pun I was going for."One, no trump" is a term from bridge - slang for a very conservative, cagey bid, I believe.
Which post that I haven't already shown to be wrong? Quote your post, quote my reply, and show how my reply doesn't show your post wrong.Wrong, as demonstrated by what I've already posted.
Those who are politically inclined to the left of me. They aren't fiscally responsible.What do you consider a liberal to be, and what don't you like about that position?