Once again calling me a liar. 3 strikes and you're out.
Stop being dishonest with your language. You know the error in your own words. You know Hebrew better than I do.
Rotfl... show us where the man that Jacob wrestled with him was called the God by him, my God, etc.? It isn't there.
What's your point?
I showed you where Jacob wrestled...the guy walked away after blessing him, and Jacob said, "Wow! I just wrestled with God and didn't even die." Limping from that day on, he called Him God...after He walked away. Either you don't understand how language works, or...strike four.
Moses was called God, Ex 7:1,
I've already done this. You just couldn't read. God is wont to appoint and delegate. Moses was given authority over Pharaoh, as Messiah's disciples have authority over snakes and scorpions.
Abraham, Gen 23:6, and Esau by Jacob himself in Gen 33:10. I guess all of these folks are God too, but that would increase your godhead beyond 3. Rotfl...
No
Abraham was called NESI Elohim, a Prince of God. The Hittites recognized his authority from God. And NO ONE was as weak minded as Jacob, expecting to die wrestling with any of them. In Jacob's case, he was groveling UNDER the fear of his brother, and speaking hyperbolically, using the title to humble himself. Why do you have to do this as if I hadn't read the passages?
You've missed a few things.
That could be...but certainly not in a single one of your posts. You're forced to deny context and seek to nullify the Tenach to maintain your own error.
Do you understand context? I never said everytime the term elohim is used refers to man. Try to keep up.
See above...you don't have to say it to seek to enforce the claim.
Why go down rabbit roles with your own statements? Yes, your statements were blasphemous. Ironically, you're agreeing that the idea of Jesus is God is....
Rotfl... checkmate!
The Rabbit hole is yours with the deliberate misunderstanding. El is a title...Elohim applied in the singular is translated "God" correctly. Elohim in context of "
ha Elohim refers to high justices...you knew it and made the false claim anyway. Own the hole you dug
Either el or elohim refers to a title referring to rank or authority, power. Men and angels are given authority by Him.
Yep...And Elohim singular, Who wrestled all night with Jacob is not a man, contrary to your delusional claim.
There is no like in the Hebrew.
Exactly...You've proven my point. There is like in weak English translations, because they do not understand the concept of delegated authority.
And so Moses acts as God before Pharaoh.
I said that.
You've made my point. Judges are referred to as "The God" because they judge as God.
Sigh...You're acting like you do not know Hebrew and I have to teach you: Ha elohim...is masculine PLURAL. NO ONE reads this in the singular. These are THE judges...plural. Totally different t context.
Judges are called the God. See above.
Nonsense...it's masculine plural...and every time a verb is used, it, too is masculine plural.
I'm sure you're familiar with Psalm 89:6?
Of course...Who among the sons of the
elim can be compared to YHWH.
You have to define "the sons of the
elim." Michael Heiser did a pretty good job at that.The sons of the
els.
Angels are referred to as God.
Not in that psalm they are not...they're not mentioned. But your interpretation is noted. It's not biblical, but it's a decent guess...
Angels and men act as God and for God.
If they've been delegated that duty. Certainly not all men and not all angels.
A malach, messenger, acts as God and can bestow blessings for God as well.
If he's sent with that, and at that point, he carries the authority of God as Moses did before Pharaoh. God can delegate. He is El Elohe.
You're admitting your god lost a wrestling match and limited in the flesh.
Your admitting your patriarch was duped by a guy, and feared for no reason.
I'm actually observing that my God can do as He pleases, appears as He wishes, wrestles whom He will and He's not limited by my the artificial limits of my religion like yours is.
Rotfl... more like your understanding is.
He got duped by a man...who had no more power to bless or change names than you do.
God uses blessings, acts of nature, angels acting as Him, to denote His presence. It isn't a physical presence. Keep studying.
God is so much that you cannot allow Him to be. He does so much more than your religion allows. He makes the Law, not your religion, riddled with enforced tradition and error.
Your own example has Solomon admitting that neither heaven, earth, nor the temple contains God. Why is that so difficult for you?
You're confusing residing with containing. The Holy Spirit takes up residence in the heart of a believer in your Messiah. What heart can contain Him?What came into the Holy of Holies, and dwelt there? What did Ezekiel see leaving? There is no Shekineh that dwells? More imagination? Once again, you're obfuscating what happened that day, and what Ezekiel witnessed when your people turned from God and made up a religion the first time.
The glory, honor, kavod, isn't His physical presence. You're stuck on a physical idea, a veil of flesh, Ex 34:17, masecah.
Nope...I'm stuck on reading. You're stuck on physical...The shekineh cloud was a cloud, and it took up residence...and the priests had to wear bells behind the veil to signal when they got killed in the presence.
Not an answer. Look above.
You keep hoping you're advancing your position. You ain't.
Nah. I don't have any hope for you...but your error has and deserves a response. There are those who once believed what you've been told, and the inventions necessitated after your Messiah was murdered as foretold. They have looked on the Messiah you pierced and fulfilled the prophecy you have yet to understand.