organgrinder
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This thread is about learning to become a god, not about salvation or exaltation. I would suggest you start a new thread where you can keep quoting your same old verses that have been explained many times.
Learning to become a god
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Theo1689
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And once again, Mormons go out of their way to boast to us how terrible their educational experience was, and how ignorant they are.
I know 6-year-olds who understand that someone who is "born" ALREADY HAS life.
It's not a 'requirement" for life,
And so if Mormons don't even understand THAT much, I really don't know what to tell you.
For the thousandth time, you are CONFUSING "correlation" with "causation".
You want good works to "causes" salvation.
They don't.
Okay, let me explain something to you.
My grandparents' best friends had a cherry tree in their front yard. We knew it was a cherry tree even before it started growing cherries. Do you know why? The tree didn't grow cherries (the fruit) to "become" a cherry tree. It always WAS a cherry tree. It grew cherries because it (already) WAS a cherry tree.
An animal doesn't grow spots to "become" a leopard.
It grows spots because it already IS a leopard!
A tree doeesn't grow apples to "become" an apple tree.
It grows apples becuase it already IS an apple tree.
We don't do good works to "become" saved.
We do good works because we already ARE saved.
John 5:28f is NOT "salvation instructions".
It is simply explaining how Jesus will RECOGNIZE the righteous.
Too bad you don't understand what He's teaching.
That doesn't say that the "reward" is eternal life.
So why the unwarranted ASSUMPTION?
brotherofJared
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It seems to me that we would be required to change. Don't you
organgrinder
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You tell me. You asked the question. And you left off the other part of my post where I made a suggestion to Mr. copy and paste.
Ah ..more personal (and utterly false) attacks from Theo. Yes, I answered. You just didn't like how it was answered. I said they (the false gods/idols worshiped) were not real (multiple times)...but because I didn't say "Baal", specifically, isn't real, you (and other critics) claim I "refused" to answer. It's all a game of deflection and misdirection with you folks. You can't contend with me directly...so you sneak in side remarks about me to others.
organgrinder
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So to be clear, is it your position and understanding that there were no other "real gods" worshiped in Israel other than the LDS God the Father, Jesus(Jehovah) and the Holy Ghost? All the rest such as Baal, Molech, Pharoah and idols representing whatever/whomever were false gods, correct?
And the LDS god (Father, Jesus known as Jehovah and the Holy Ghost) were the only real gods on planet earth. Other real gods exist in other universes over planets?
Correct. However, as I showed on the other thread, other real gods (apart from the false ones/idols worshiped by the Gentiles) are spoken of in the Bible. We don't worship them either.
organgrinder
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And you think they are mentioned where? Psalm 82?
This has already been discussed. You're going in circles.
organgrinder
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Thank you for your so thoughtful reply.
You're welcome
Richard7
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Yep I did. It's invitation to become perfect....
organgrinder
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Well, you have that definition wrong, but thanks for trying anyway. You should see what it says in the Greek. Much better understanding of the verse.
Bonnie
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Except no one can become perfect by his or her own power. There is ONLY ONE WAY to be perfect in God's eyes NOW--do YOU know what that way is, Richard?
Richard7
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“Yea, come unto Christ, and be perfected in him … ,” Moroni pleads. “Love God with all your might, mind and strength, then … by his grace ye may be perfect in Christ.”
Only through Christ can we become perfect....