Hmm could it be they cannot pretend the OT people of God are RCs?
Marian Prayers--Catholics try to tell us that prayers to Mary are asking her to intercede for us
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I am always stunned by one they come up with to justify their false doctrines. So sad. Yet they say they are all united in their beliefs.
A new day
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In the first place, the Apostles would NOT of taught ANYONE to ask dead people to intercede for those still alive. Let alone even suggest it. When cornelius tried that CROCK, peter rebuked him for doing so. In Acts 14, paul and barnabas, also rebuked people for attempting to worship them. In revelation, john was rebuked by an angel for thinking along the same lines.
Prayer is a form of worship. Asking a dead person to intercede for you in any way is worshipping the dead.
God is fully capable of hearing our prayers, and fully capable of meeting our needs according to His will. In Scripture ALL prayers were directed TO God. At no time, did any of the OT prophets ever teach, or preach praying to the dead.
In the example Jesus gave about the rich man and lazarus, the rich man wanted to send lazarus to the rich man's brothers. And the request was DENIED. The rich man was told that his brother's had the Scriptures available to them. lazarus was NOT able to intercede for the rich man nor the rich man's brothers.
Asking another person who is still alive on earth to "agree" with you in prayer is acceptable. Praying TO a dead person, asking them to intercede on your behalf is NOT
Bonnie
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The OT? That is patently absurd. One Catholic did claim on here that Catholics wrote the NT, which is foolish enough, but the OLD Testament???
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I see both cases as desperate attempts at validation by the RCC. "We were there at the beginning! Honest!"
BTW, if the RCC wrote the New Testament, (a) why weren't their distinctive doctrines clearly spelled out? and (b) why does the RCC work so danged hard to ignore or deny what the Scriptures do say?
--Rich
"Esse quam videri"
pilgrim
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It's faux outrage.
How many sent gave or received Father's day cards in violation of Scripture which says "call no man father", let alone the poetic sentiments about being " the best" or " the greatest".
Blasphemy!
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romishpopishorganist
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Protestants on this site love to virtue signal to the other Protestants. There is nothing they love better then feigning outrage at all things Catholic.
yes, it is. It shows how little knowledge they do have of scripture and how blindly they believe anything the rcc tells them. their hearts have no desire for the truth.
romishpopishorganist
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Right: Catholics just blindly believe whatever they are told by the RCC, but Protestants think for themselves. Protestants do not just accept whatever Pastor Bob, Elder Sue, Reverend Joe, Brother this or sister that tells them without critical thought. No, they go by the Bible.
Bob Carabbio
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The Roman Catholic "Mary Thing" doesn't even exist, and the entire concept taught my "Marianists" is total BLASPHEMY!!!
HOW DARE YOU think that Jesus our Saviour needs any input from a normal physically dead sinful Human in order to do the right thing by us??
HOW DARE you mischaracterize the REAL Biblical Mary, Jesus' mother into the blasphemous usurping MONSTER that the Roman Catholic "Church" has made her into???
Bonnie
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No, it is real outrage.
I always called my father "Daddy."
But then, I never prayed to my father, called him the "only hope for sinners" or "gate of heaven" or "help of the dying" or "co-mediator"...and I never ascribed honors, glory, and power to him that rightfully belong only to Jesus Christ.So, that is why giving my Daddy father's day cards wasn't blasphemy.
Bonnie
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I cannot speak for others, but I don't blindly believe everything I hear taught by ministers in our church. I always stay attuned for anything that might not line up with Scriptures. As we are taught in our church. In the 2 churches where my husband was Pastor, he told the elders in both to make sure he never taught contrary to Scripture, and if they thought he did, to call him on it.Right: Catholics just blindly believe whatever they are told by the RCC, but Protestants think for themselves. Protestants do not just accept whatever Pastor Bob, Elder Sue, Reverend Joe, Brother this or sister that tells them without critical thought. No, they go by the Bible.
And yes, we go by the Bible.
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dingoling.
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God prepared Israel to bring his son into the world. It makes very good sense that he would prepare the woman who would be the mother of his son.
Among other things, Mary is the mother of God, she is the new Eve, and she is the ark of the new covenant. Not just your typical woman.
Bonnie
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Sure He did by sending Gabriel to tell Mary she would bear the Messiah.
Mary is not the New Eve or the ark of the new covenant. Calling Mary the mother of God can be a bit dicey, as it could easily be misconstrued by some to think we teach Mary gave birth to the entire Godhead, instead of just God the Son.
Mary was an ordinary woman whom God enabled to do something extraordinary--bear the Son of God in His humanity, while she was a virgin.
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most do - within their own made up version of it. we see that in posts on here, such as the catholics here whose beliefs don't always line up with what you post. when I was catholic we called them cafeteria catholics.
if they're believers they do.
not if they're believers.
if they're believers they do.No, they go by the Bible.
dingoling.
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Yes Mary is the new Eve and the ark of the new covenant.
False claims, no surprise at all.
Wishful thinking. RCs should show real outrage at the behaviour of their leaders but they don't.
Rubbish.