dingoling.
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Truth is the issue. What is the truth? There are errors in scripture. There are times it contradicts itself. It has nothing to do with the atheists.
The Blind Leading the Blind - Matthew 16:18
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SPOKENWORD
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The error is in your understanding of the Scriptures.
Bonnie
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No, there are not. By whose authority do you make that declaration?
The contradiction is in your faulty understanding of Scripture. But by what or whose authority do you declare this?
Bonnie
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If the 4 Gospels had agreed on every little detail, then people would be screaming, "Collusion!"He hung himself:
and when the rope broke he fell and burst
"Given these facts, it is clear that the gospels are actually in complete harmony on this matter. One author might have known more names than another. One author may have had a specific reason for emphasizing one particular woman over the others. These are issues of mere specificity. The fact of the matter is that there is no conflict between these verses at all. They are all communicating the same thing! Far from an example of a contradiction, this is actually a minor example of the gospels reporting the same event in slightly different ways without any disagreement at all."
Do the Gospels disagree on who discovered the empty tomb?
Do the Gospels disagree on who discovered the empty tomb? No. They present the same information from different perspectives.carm.org
This is the sad state of Catholic apologetics;
trying to prove Scripture is in error; while claiming their Church is error-free.
I remember reading about this. The 4 Gospel witnesses are like several people who all witnessed the same thing and are telling others of what they saw. One person provides one detail, another provides another detail. The witnesses provide the same information on some details, but different details about other parts of what they saw. But when taken all together, the details all the eye witnesses gave show a complete picture.
Simple.
1Thess521
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Prove that verse of Scripture was not one of those errors you claim are contained in Scripture
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dingoling.
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Here is another error.
I Kings 6:1, "In the four hundred and eigthtieth year after the Israelites came out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel....
There are nCCs who have added up the years from when the Israelites left Egypt to the fourth year of Solomon's reign and it is more than 480 years.
1Thess521
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keep digging that hole
and if you are right:
then I can question the "correctness" of any verse in Scripture
including your beloved verses in James and your go-to Prime Minister verse
1Thess521
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Bonnie
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Thanks. This is interesting.
dingoling.
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Yes that is what that passage says, but Christians have checked that number by adding the years up from the time the Jews spent in the wilderness, the period of conquest under Joshua, the time of the Judges and the time of Saul and David. Those years add up to more than 480 years.
1Thess521
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your own USCCB sees it as a figurative number for a dozen generations (12ish x 40ish)
not as an exact chronological measurement
(as that is often the case with numbers in Scripture (ex: 7 times 70 means very complete)
Catholics don't take the 1000 years in the Revelation as an exact literal chronological measurement
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By the authority of Tischendorf, Alford, Wescott and Hort &etc, and many other textual critics - the text found in bibles based on the KJV (textus receptus) is not the same as that found in the ancient 4th century codices, Codex Vaticanus, and Codex Sinaiticus, etc.
For instance, the Johannine Comma, as found in 1 John 5:7,8 in the KJV and in the Catholic Douay-Rheims bible, is missing in the 4th century codices, as is the ending of Mark's gospel, as is also the Periscope Adulterae (John 7:53–8:11). Many other variations occur.
Perhaps it would be more appropriate to say there are errors in "our scriptures." No-one ever ruled the English scriptures to be infallible (except KJV-only-ists). Infallibility could only be attributed to the original words written down in the original languages, as it is impossible to make an "infallible" translation of anything as complex as the bible - even if we had the original documents, which we don't.
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