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Except you are not following Him , you are following yourself , the god you have made into your own image and likeness
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I asked you, last week if you believe that Jesus told Thomas to touch the wounds in his body after he rose from the dead. You ignored my request. Did Jesus tell Thomas to touch his wounds.Actually God sent the man to show you how to live in the Father as he was in the Father.. Not many follow him to that place though.
I thought I answered. Jesus was clear. Spirit doesn't have flesh and bone as you see me. Gods kingdom and all in it is spirit not flesh, no flesh inherits the kingdom of God. Man is only the temple for Him.I asked you, last week if you believe that Jesus told Thomas to touch the wounds in his body after he rose from the dead. You ignored my request. Did Jesus tell Thomas to touch his wounds.
Oh heck no, I defiantly followed Jesus to the Father. That is what he came for.Except you are not following Him , you are following yourself , the god you have made into your own image and likeness
You just want me to believe as you believe instead of following the way of Christ is all.
The God I made in my image? Actually He made me in His same image just as He did Jesus and some others. His image is Spirit and that Spirit is Love. Something you say I created and follow myself? you really should consider Him in the way of Christ be your own mind.
Well thanks for thinking I wrote the book in my image but sorry I can't take the credit for that.
The kingdom of God doesn’t come with observation it is within you. Or is supppsed to be within you.Without the bodily resurrection which was permanent one has no Savior and you are still dead in your sins according to the Apostle Paul. 1 Corinthians 15:17
Many deny Jesus was Resurrected and Ascended into heaven bodily( a human body with real flesh and bones) and are still dead in their sins even though they might claim to be a christian. That is an oxymoron.
Luke 24:37-43
37 But they were startled and frightened and thought that they were seeing a spirit. 38 And He said to them, "Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39 "See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have." 40 And when He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet. 41 While they still could not believe it because of their joy and amazement, He said to them, "Have you anything here to eat?" 42 They gave Him a piece of a broiled fish; 43 and He took it and ate it before them.
John 20:24-25
24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples were saying to him, "We have seen the Lord!" But he said to them, "Unless I see in His hands the imprint of the nails, and put my finger into the place of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe."
John 20:27-28
27 Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe." 28 Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"
There is one Mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. (1Timothy 2:5) post ascension.
Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever.(Hebrews 13:5) Changeless, Immutable. Jesus was a man when He walked this earth, when He Ascended and when He will return again at His 2nd Coming.
1 Corinthians 15:1-8
Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain.
3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. 6 After that He appeared to more than five hundred brethren at one time, most of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep; 7 then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles; 8 and last of all, as to one untimely born, He appeared to me also.
1 Corinthians 15:14-18
14 and if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain. 15 Moreover we are even found to be false witnesses of God, because we testified against God that He raised Christ, whom He did not raise, if in fact the dead are not raised. 16 For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised; 17 and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.
2 Corinthians 5:1-10
For we know that when this earthly tent we live in is taken down (that is, when we die and leave this earthly body), we will have a house in heaven, an eternal body made for us by God himself and not by human hands. 2 We grow weary in our present bodies, and we long to put on our heavenly bodies like new clothing. 3 For we will put on heavenly bodies; we will not be spirits without bodies. 4 While we live in these earthly bodies, we groan and sigh, but it's not that we want to die and get rid of these bodies that clothe us. Rather, we want to put on our new bodies so that these dying bodies will be swallowed up by life. 5 God himself has prepared us for this, and as a guarantee he has given us his Holy Spirit.6 So we are always confident, even though we know that as long as we live in these bodies we are not at home with the Lord. 7 For we live by believing and not by seeing. 8 Yes, we are fully confident, and we would rather be away from these earthly bodies, for then we will be at home with the Lord. 9 So whether we are here in this body or away from this body, our goal is to please him.
In Heaven.... Hebrews 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken [this is] the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
8:2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
Look up the meaning of the word soma below, it always means a physical body in relation to anthropos(man).
His Body.....Philippians 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
Philippians 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Matthew 27:52-53
52 The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs, and after Jesus' resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many people.
Philippians 3:20-21
And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.
1 Corinthians 15:44-45
44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15 that if Christ be not risen your faith is in vain and you are still dead in your sins- an unbeliever who is lost. Those who deny the physical bodily resurrection of Jesus such as the JW's who teach that Jesus is now a spirit based being fit into this camp. They deny the resurrection.
If we look at what Paul is saying in this passage, it is that corruptible flesh and blood shall not enter the kingdom. Paul says corruptible does not inherit the incorruptible. Paul is not saying the resurrection body will not have flesh but what he declares is that the resurrected body will not have perishable flesh. Remember in Luke Jesus said see here My hands and feet, touch Me a spirit/ghost does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have. Peter, Paul and John all agree that Jesus still had flesh well after His ascension. 1 John being the last of the books of the three Apostles declared that Jesus having come in the flesh and those who deny this are the spirit of antichrist. John makes it clear that the Incarnation was permanent. Jesus is forever both God and man. This is what Paul teaches in the whole 15th chapter of 1 Corinthians. The glorious physical bodies that we will have in the resurrection. We will have incorruptible bodies just as Jesus now has in heaven.
hope this helps !!!
you are not reading it from a spiritual mind you are reading it from a carnal mind. Jesus can save you if you follow him to the One who does the saving.
Gnosticism in action.The kingdom of God doesn’t come with observation it is within you. Or is supppsed to be within you.
you are not reading it from a spiritual mind you are reading it from a carnal mind. Jesus can save you if you follow him to the One who does the saving.
Jesus was gnostic? Read what he said in Luke 17:20-21. I suppose you could say Jesus was gnostic he believed that the Spirit of God is within man, this is what gnostics believes as well.Gnosticism in action.
Jesus told Thomas to touch his wounds. You know not JesusJesus was gnostic? Read what he said in Luke 17:20-21. I suppose you could say Jesus was gnostic he believed that the Spirit of God is within man, this is what gnostics believes as well.
Yes we know by your say so ( man's word that the jesus you follow is just a man ), that you have rejected the REAL Jesus Christ because GOD's say so in these AS IS posted scriptures ( John 1:1+14 & 8:58 and Heb.1:8 ) CLEARLY tells us He is both fully God ( the Word in John 1:1 ) and fully human ( Flesh in John 1:14 ) as a man or God-Man! Case closed Gary!Who am I ? I am The same one Jesus came and followed and said should be in me too.. His way works for me.
FYI Gary, as per John 1:3 & Col.1:16, it was Precarnate Jesus ( God the Word in John 1:1 ) who made/created ALL things! He ( God the Word ) became God-Man as Jesus Christ in John 1:14! Case closed on Gary's counterfeit Christ ( just a man as per Gary's say so )!Oh heck no, I defiantly followed Jesus to the Father. That is what he came for.
Actually He made me in His same image just as He did Jesus and some others.
Jesus was also God in the flesh. Totally different from you or any other fallible human.Jesus was gnostic? Read what he said in Luke 17:20-21. I suppose you could say Jesus was gnostic he believed that the Spirit of God is within man, this is what gnostics believes as well.
Yes he did, touch my body it is flesh, but the part you don't see is Spirit for God is a Spirit not flesh. The point Jesus was and is trying to express to you. You are not looking at what Jesus was saying you are dictating to him your own understanding for flesh and not Spirit. You can touch and view my mortal body but Spirit you can't see nor touch.Jesus told Thomas to touch his wounds. You know not Jesus
You really do not know the God Jesus spoke of do you?
My says? Jesus is the one said God sent him to show you the way to be like the Father yourselfYes we know by your say so ( man's word that the jesus you follow is just a man ), that you have rejected the REAL Jesus Christ because GOD's say so in these AS IS posted scriptures ( John 1:1+14 & 8:58 and Heb.1:8 ) CLEARLY tells us He is both fully God ( the Word in John 1:1 ) and fully human ( Flesh in John 1:14 ) as a man or God-Man! Case closed Gary!
Actually God was in Jesus flesh. Jesus received God and His Spirit in Matt 3:16 just as we all do who receives the same from God as Jesus came to show us what that is to have from the Father yourself. .Jesus was also God in the flesh. Totally different from you or any other fallible human.
You are dancing around my point. You always turn conversations about Jesus to be about you. Such narcissistic behavior you exhibit.Yes he did, touch my body it is flesh, but the part you don't see is Spirit for God is a Spirit not flesh. The point Jesus was and is trying to express to you. You are not looking at what Jesus was saying you are dictating to him your own understanding for flesh and not Spirit. You can touch and view my mortal body but Spirit you can't see nor touch.
You really do not know the God Jesus spoke of do you?
I trust scripture and not some narcissist.Actually God was in Jesus flesh. Jesus received God and His Spirit in Matt 3:16 just as we all do who receives the same from God as Jesus came to show us what that is to have from the Father yourself. .
You dance around the point that God is a Spirit and not a man.You are dancing around my point. You always turn conversations about Jesus to be about you. Such narcissistic behavior you exhibit.
Narcissistic? Jesus is all about me, he was sent for me to show me what it is to be in the Father as he was in the Father himself. He was sent for you as well you just can't see that he was is all.
If you did trust scripture instead of changing it to suit your religious belief you would be like Him as Jesus was like Him and came to lead you to Him.I trust scripture and not some narcissist.
Yes God the WORD of John 1:1 said that God the Father sent Him to become " Flesh " in John 1:14 as the God-Man then called Jesus Christ so He could show us humans the way to God the Father ( John 14:6 ), which is ONLY through Him ( the Real Jesus Christ ) and NOT your counterfeit jesus ( just a man ) that you follow Gary! Gary remains 100% rebuked by these posted scriptures as per 2 Tim.3:16! Case closed!My says? Jesus is the one said God sent him to show you the way to be like the Father yourself
And John 1 came to light the moment God came and revealed Himself in me, His word is living. He did the same in Jesus in Matt 3:16 and will do the same in you if you will let Him. And we all became flesh made of a woman born under the law just as Jesus was no different at all.Yes God the WORD of John 1:1 said that God the Father sent Him to become " Flesh " in John 1:14 as the God-Man then called Jesus Christ so He could show us humans the way to God the Father ( John 14:6 ), which is ONLY through Him ( the Real Jesus Christ ) and NOT your counterfeit jesus ( just a man ) that you follow Gary! Gary remains 100% rebuked by these posted scriptures as per 2 Tim.3:16! Case closed!
All you have done is separate yourself from Him is all. You should at least try and unite with Him as Jesus was united with Him. He will open up to you everything He opens up in Jesus and the rest of these who received Him