Thinking through humility, and what it looks like.

fltom said:
Determined is not willingly
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I didn't say they were the thing.
I said both were true (and they are).

Unless you are going to try go claim that Calvinism teaches that men were forced to sin against their will (which I wouldn't recommend you do, since you would be condemning yourself by continuing to bear false witness).
 
Theo1689 said:
I didn't say they were the thing.
I said both were true (and they are).

Unless you are going to try go claim that Calvinism teaches that men were forced to sin against their will (which I wouldn't recommend you do, since you would be condemning yourself by continuing to bear false witness).
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sorry that is an oxymoron

If a thing is determined it is not done willingly

Philemon 14 (KJV) — 14 But without thy mind would I do nothing; that thy benefit should not be as it were of necessity, but willingly.
 
fltom said:
no one stated you did

you claimed everyone held to the same view regarding what was imputed for righteousness.

it was not so
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Obviously i was not making a universal statement. One can always find disagreemebt in groups.

The point was Your rebuttal doesn't work on me. It's not "settled".
 
Simpletruther said:
Obviously i was not making a universal statement. One can always find disagreemebt in groups.

The point was Your rebuttal doesn't work on me. It's not "settled".
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again you were not being addressed

you entered into an on going discussion

where some poster did not agree that it was one's faith which is imputed for righteousness
 
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