I generally don't get into lengthy arguments with Christians about what they think Bible passages mean. Just let me say that to downplay Paul's belief about "wonders" and prayer is absurd. Whatever else might be said about Paul, he was a man of prayer.
That's what we read.
John of Patmos also saw Jesus post ascension, or so we read in Revelation.
Actually, I ended up telling the Pentecostals more about the Bible than what they told me. I studied it intensely at that time and often informed them about the Bible's contents facts that they didn't know.
Anyway, what's wrong with the Pentecostals? You Christians sure love to fight with each other.
We all have an opinion!
I don't really have moral standards but prefer to use reason and facts to arrive at what I should do. I also try to take the views of others into consideration regarding moral decisions.
Why be so suspicious and paranoid about people? What they do in private can be good. I make sure to do good no matter where I am. I recommend it.
As far as I can tell I understand the Bible as well as most believers do. If you'd like to display your supernatural discernment, though, then please inform us of the name of Joseph's father--the Joseph who was Mary's husband.
That's not correct. When Paul asserted that "all have sinned," he wasn't thinking about infants and those born cognitively impaired.
I don't see how Christians are more righteous than others.
That's true. I cannot and do not see any results to your prayers.
You insulted me calling me "bitter." I'm not bitter at all. I just tell people the truth, and for them the truth is bitter.
I didn't distort anything.
I didn't slander anybody. Everything I posted is true to the best of my knowledge.
It's really not a matter of how Christians treat me now because I now know better than to trust what they claim. What I'm out to do is prevent Christians from harming others.
True, but what's your point? If you apply some logic, you'd conclude that prayer doesn't put an end to all that suffering.
This is really weird: Why attend a forum where you can't take disagreement? I'd advise you to do your homework about some of the issues I've raised and at least attempt a well-argued, reasoned response to my criticisms. Who knows? You might become a decent debater and be able to substantiate at least some of your beliefs.
So in other words, when you get caught twisting scripture out of context to fit your own narrative, rather than just admit it you just double down on falsehood lol. What John describes in revelation is prophetic visions..Paul actually saw Jesus in person after His burial.
Studying immensely does not equate to understanding, btw. Especially when it comes to scriptural/spiritual matters. You demonstrate that in your posts.
What’s wrong with pentecostalists? Your thread here is actually an answer to your own question. You are only one of many millions who share a very similar story. This is because their hocus pocus doctrine is based on staunch misinterpretation of the Word, and I won’t even get into all the other things wrong with that religion here. There’s entire libraries of information on what is wrong.
Why be suspicious of people? Why not? It has served me well. I don’t get conned like you did by pentecostalists. Besides, the scriptures say let only God be true, and every man a liar.
No, clearly you don’t understand the Bible too well. I’ve already pointed out multiple passages you’ve used out of context .
And like Paul, I am not talking to infants either. Also, if you want to be real about it, everyone is cognitively impaired in a way. This sort of excuse you make is used by lawyers to try and justify what violent criminals do. If someone broke into one of your loved one’s homes at midnight, did savage, unspeakable violent crimes to them, you good with them getting away with it because of ‘cognitive impairment’? Released, set free to do it again?
You don’t seem to get that true Christians are willing to admit they are not righteous, the righteousness of Christ must be imputed. You’re right, you don’t see.
I only called you bitter in the post after your false accusation of insulting you though. Sorry if you take the truth as an ‘insult’ but it’s all in your writings and your tone, and I am not the only one here who mentioned that. You’ve been very smug, and condescending to people here. Don’t like what you reap, sow better. Thought you were a devout Bible student?
You did distort, several things..scriptures, what I said earlier, your thread title is a distortion..so much for being this ‘good’ person you portray yourself as, which is also yet another distortion. And you did slander, so apparently, the best of your knowledge isn’t quite cutting it.
Now you know better than to trust what Christians claim? Wait, what were you saying about being suspicious and paranoid? LOL..you fell in with pentecostalists who preached a false doctrine of health and prosperity. Therefore you’re distorting again by claiming Christians are harming others. False manmade doctrine created by scripture twist/denominational bias harms others. Way to generalize.
Where did I ever claim that prayer ends all suffering? I didn’t. Where did Christ claim that? He didn’t. Paul had ailments himself he suffered from and prayed multiple times for relief and it wasn’t given as mentioned in Corinthians. Sometimes suffering has a purpose, such as to keep one humble, it worked in Paul’s case. Others though, tends to have the exact opposite effect.
You’re distorting yet again LOL..I actually expect disagreement. You’re the one who can’t take disagreement. That’s why in your op you tell Christians to keep their beliefs to themselves. You can’t take differing views. Like when you get called out for your scripture twisting...you can’t own up to it and just double down by introducing more falsehood as I pointed out earlier.
Only homework assignment I have is to study the Word. So no thanks. I believe I am done here in this thread. Go do your own homework..and have a look in the mirror, that’s where all your issues stem from. Would certainly be more productive than to waste your life away blaming others for your problems, trolling for people to take your frustration out on, and being so bitter. Whatever ye sow, that ye shall also reap.