He hasn't seen my posts, I suppose."Squestion?" Sounds Russian. Eastern Orthodox maybe?
He hasn't seen my posts, I suppose."Squestion?" Sounds Russian. Eastern Orthodox maybe?
For what you only offer denial????? ... see my posts, genius. ?
the dead (though physically alive) being made alive speaks of regenerationNo. Who says it's there?
hereWhere is regeneration mentioned in Colossians 2:13 I wonder. Do you see it there?
Regeneration is not spelled quickened.here
Colossians 2:13 (KJV) — 13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
See our resident ? ?No. Who says it's there?
quickening - making alive however is regenerationRegeneration is not spelled quickened.
So you agree with the Calvinists that one is Spiritually dead in sins until they are regenerated then right?quickening - making alive however is regeneration
when the physically alive are stated to be made alive it is spiritual life which is regeneration which is in view
Colossians 2:13 (KJV) — 13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
note your Calvinist peers affirm this refers to regeneration
yes right after they believeSo you agree with the Calvinists that one is Spiritually dead in sins until they are regenerated then right?
For the sake of others on here, the above texts clearly show that regeneration happens, not after belief, but while dead in trespasses.yes right after they believe
and here is proof quickening refers to regeneration
- Verses used to show regeneration before faith
- Col. 2:13, “And when you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions,”
- Eph. 2:4-5, “But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved).”
Okay, great. So whatyes right after they believe
and here is proof quickening refers to regeneration
Irresistible Grace - What is Irresistible Grace? | carm.org
- Verses used to show regeneration before faith
- Col. 2:13, “And when you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions,”
- Eph. 2:4-5, “But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved).”
So it was proven you did not know what you were talking aboutOkay, great. So what
what you left out having forgiven us all sin (trespasses)For the sake of others on here, the above texts clearly show that regeneration happens, not after belief, but while dead in trespasses.
The above poster is adding his theology into the text, there is not one word that even remotely alludes to regeneration happening "after they believe."
He's even been so kind so as to underline the portion that refutes him.
For the sake of others, the above poster never TOUCHED the part of the text I dealt with, which refutes him.what you left out having forgiven us all sin (trespasses)
Colossians 2:13 (KJV) — 13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
past participle transpires logically before regeneration temporarily at the time of regeneration
sin are not forgiven without faith and repentance
so faith and repentance are seen to transpire before regeneration
Q.E.D.
I don't respond?! Get outta here.For what you only offer denial
you seek only a framed response
and you will not engage
Nor will you respond
Does faith precede salvation
I asked you a couple of question you would not respond toI don't respond?! Get outta here.
I respond to your posts, Tom.I asked you a couple of question you would not respond to
I gave you an argument you did not respond to that either
You insisted evidence had to be presented in a certain manner
or you would not believe
you did not address my arguments or answer my questionsI respond to your posts, Tom.
Here again is my response: CIte any passage stating, "Christ died for all men without exception," and I'll be compelled to come over to your side."
Deal with it. I'm no longer interested in your "exegesis," so-called.
You continue to falsely claim I'm not addressing your arguments. Following is my addressing of your arguments and questions: CIte any passage stating, "Christ died for all men without exception," and I'll be compelled to come over to your side."you did not address my arguments or answer my questions
that is a fact
and you are still framing
framing againYou continue to falsely claim I'm not addressing your arguments. Following is my addressing of your arguments and questions: CIte any passage stating, "Christ died for all men without exception," and I'll be compelled to come over to your side."