"Eucharistic miracle" in Zapotlanejo, Mexico?

[RiJoRi]

Why would we expect them to believe of the Heavenly things?

Again, like the Samaritan soldiers in Elisha's day, and the Jews of Paul's day, the I believe the RCs have been blinded by God. They *cannot* see the church even though it is all around them. This blindness will keep them from seeing the church, or accepting what I am saying, just as the Jews of Paul's day (the ones he declared blinded) "knew" they were doing God's work in persecuting Christians.

I wrote this 3 months ago, and for the past 3 months the RCs have not ceased in their clamoring to be shown our church. While they point with pride to their activities and buildings, they ignore - or were never shown - what happened to the house of God, the central point of a monolithic, unified religious authority (rather like the RCC dreams of):
Luke 21:5-6 [ISV] Now while some people were talking about the Temple—how it was decorated with beautiful stones and gifts dedicated to God—He [Jesus] said, “As for these things that you see, the time will come when not one stone will be left on another that won’t be knocked down.”

--Rich
"Esse quam videri"

 

[RiJoRi]

It is the pillar and foundation of the truth, and it decides what is truth and what is error.

Yep. And in its "wisdom" your church fights against He Who said He is the truth. You have decided that Jesus (the way, the truth, and the life) is not good enough, and have created your own pantheon with all the gloria mundi any man could want – and fail to notice it is built on sinking sand.

--Rich
"Esse quam videri"

 

[pilgrim]

Deut. 32:3​

Because I will publish the name of the Lord:​

ascribe ye greatness unto our God.​

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4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment:​

a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.​

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5 They have corrupted themselves,​

their spot is not the spot of his children:​

they are a perverse and crooked generation.​

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Jer.13:23
Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots?
then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

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28 For they are a nation void of counsel,​

neither is there any understanding in them.​

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29 O that they were wise, that they understood this,​

that they would consider their latter end.​

..................​

31​

For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges.​

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I am the true Vine

BUT

32 For their vine is of the vine of Sodom,​

and of the fields of Gomorrah:​

their grapes are grapes of gall, their clusters are bitter:​

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33 Their wine is the poison of dragons,​

and the cruel venom of asps.​

The RCC - founded on the wrong Rock

See Bonnie? You said this was "absurd". Well there you go. I'm sure Moses and Jeremiah had the Church in mind when they wrote these verses.

 

[pilgrim]

Deut. 32:3​

Because I will publish the name of the Lord:​

ascribe ye greatness unto our God.​

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4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment:​

a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.​

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5 They have corrupted themselves,​

their spot is not the spot of his children:​

they are a perverse and crooked generation.​

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Jer.13:23
Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots?
then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

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28 For they are a nation void of counsel,​

neither is there any understanding in them.​

​

29 O that they were wise, that they understood this,​

that they would consider their latter end.​

..................​

31​

For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges.​

​

I am the true Vine

BUT

32 For their vine is of the vine of Sodom,​

and of the fields of Gomorrah:​

their grapes are grapes of gall, their clusters are bitter:​

​

33 Their wine is the poison of dragons,​

and the cruel venom of asps.​

The RCC - founded on the wrong Rock

John 3:3​

Jesus answered and said unto him,​

Verily, verily, I say unto thee,​

Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.​

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Lk.17:20​

And when he was demanded of the Pharisees,​

when the kingdom of God should come,​

he answered them and said,​

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The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:​

21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for,​

behold, the kingdom of God is within you.​

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And they shall say to you,​

See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.​

pilgrim;
Why do you continue to post
Lo here! Lo here! Lo here! Lo here!
Lo here the RCC lo here the RCC

And they shall say to you,
See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them

Why do you want these Protestants too disobey Christ ???????

And when the kingdom comes, it will come with tares already in it? Is that what you believe?

 

[pilgrim]

His church is and does that, not yours.

One can't build their own church. We join the Church that Jesus built on Peter.

 

[4Him]

One can't build their own church.

One doesn't need to. Jesus already built His church, the entire body of believers of which He places each member in as He pleases.

We join the Church that Jesus built on Peter.

We ARE the church built on Jesus, the Rock.

 

[pilgrim]

One doesn't need to. Jesus already built His church, the entire body of believers of which He places each member in as He pleases.


We ARE the church built on Jesus, the Rock.

There is only One Church;
One Lord, one faith, one Baptism

 

[Lastdaysbeliever]

There is only One Church;
One Lord, one faith, one Baptism

Define church!

 

[4Him]

There is only One Church;

No one said otherwise. It’s just not YOUR church.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Have the RC's here seen the news story or the videos and analysis of this event?

Apparently, the claim is made that an RC communion wafer is pulsating like a heart, and its being accepted as legit by large numbers of devout Roman Catholics.

Is this kind of thing really legit in your view?

Just another "Lying Wonder" to mislead Roman Catholics into hell.

 

[pilgrim]

Ridiculous. God's Grace knows no denominations. You know that because its been written here, many times. And again, you are only trolling and being divisive.

Where does Scripture say this?

 

[pilgrim]

Is that your infallible interpretation?

It's what the priest who was present believes:

Offering “a personal interpretation,” of the pulsing host, Fr. Spahn said it reveals “the heart of Christ, which beats with love for men,” and which, he lamented, “is so outraged, so abandoned, so despised … that sometimes we don’t treat it as we should, with
greater care, with more faith, with more dedication.”

 

[Buzzard]

See Bonnie? You said this was "absurd". Well there you go. I'm sure Moses and Jeremiah had the Church in mind when they wrote these verses.

2Cor.11:2​

I am jealous over you with godly jealousy:​

for I have espoused you to one husband,​

that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.​

ain't no ""Fortifications"" with the Kings of the Earth with that Lady

Paul writes to the Bride of Christ

1Cor.10:11​

Now all these things happened unto them for examples:​

and they are written for our admonition,​

upon whom the ends of the world are come.​

yep, there pilgrim;
I think Moses knew the future of the RCC

Deut.32:31​

For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges.​

​

32 For their vine is of the vine of Sodom,​

and of the fields of Gomorrah:​

their grapes are grapes of gall, their clusters are bitter:​

​

33 Their wine is the poison of dragons,​

and the cruel venom of asps.​

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Paul writes to warn Rome of such in his letter to them in the very 1st chapter
"given over to a Reprobate Mind"
he also tells us of these men in Titus

Titus 1:16​

They profess that they know God;​

but in works they deny him,​

being abominable, and disobedient,​

and unto every good work reprobate.​

as Moses says
" Is not this laid up in store with me, and sealed up among my treasures?"

Job Ch. 1​

Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind,​

and said,​

22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow?​

or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,​

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23 Which I have reserved against the time of trouble,​

against the day of battle and war?​

 

[4Him]

Where does Scripture say this?

Where does scripture say God's grace is limited to certain denominations? Since He places us in the body as HE pleases, why would you ask something so ridiculous?

 

[Lastdaysbeliever]

Where does Scripture say this?

Does it need to?

 

[Lastdaysbeliever]

It's what the priest who was present believes:

Offering “a personal interpretation,” of the pulsing host, Fr. Spahn said it reveals “the heart of Christ, which beats with love for men,” and which, he lamented, “is so outraged, so abandoned, so despised … that sometimes we don’t treat it as we should, with
greater care, with more faith, with more dedication.”

But you wrote:

No one sought this sign. Jesus gave it freely : a sign of His Sacred Heart beating for love of us.

So now you believe his personal interpretation was infallible. Got it.

 

[Buzzard]

Where does scripture say God's grace is limited to certain denominations? Since He places us in the body as HE pleases, why would you ask something so ridiculous?

4Him;
the Father has no preferences when it comes to "denominations "

2Cor. 5:20
Now then we are ambassadors for Christ,​

an ambassador is someone that is a Citizen of one nation
sent forth to be a witness of the Kingdom to other Nations
they are not a "Citizen" of the nation they were sent to

Hebrews 12:22​

ye are come unto mount Sion,​

and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem,​

and to an innumerable company of angels,​

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23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,​

which are written in heaven,​

and to God the Judge of all,​

and to the spirits of just men made perfect,​

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24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant,​

and to the blood of sprinkling,​

that speaketh better things than that of Abel.​

Church membership will become "A Snare" unto them

Proverbs 6:1​

My son, if thou be surety for thy friend,​

if thou hast stricken thy hand with a stranger,​

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2 Thou art snared with the words of thy mouth,​

thou art taken with the words of thy mouth.​

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3 Do this now, my son, and deliver thyself,​

when thou art come into the hand of thy friend;​

go, humble thyself, and make sure thy friend.​

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4 Give not sleep to thine eyes, nor slumber to thine eyelids.​

5 Deliver thyself as a roe from the hand of the hunter,​

and as a bird from the hand of the fowler.​

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[pilgrim]

Where does scripture say God's grace is limited to certain denominations? Since He places us in the body as HE pleases, why would you ask something so ridiculous?

There are no denominations in Scripture. Why would Jesus act against His Will, that we would be one as He and the Father are one?

Denominations are man made houses of cards.
"Unless the LORD builds the house, the builders labor in vain."

But you wrote:

So now you believe his personal interpretation was infallible. Got it.

Don't put words in my mouth.

 

[pilgrim]

Jesus Christ at Pentecost.

Now, show us where your church existed in the first century, headquartered in Rome, ruled by one man, a pope, with a Magisterium, and where the 4 Marian dogmas were taught as doctrines. Where married clergy was forbidden. Where Indulgences were taught, along with Purgatory....show us, pilgrim. If you please.

You are a Lutheran because your founder was Luther.

The Lutheran church did not exist at Pentecost. It was founded 1500 years later by a renegade monk.

 

[4Him]

There are no denominations in Scripture.

There are churches, just like there are churches now.

Why would Jesus act against His Will, that we would be one as He and the Father are one?

All in Christ are one in Him. A fact lost on Catholics.

Denominations are man made houses of cards.
"Unless the LORD builds the house, the builders labor in vain."

Your church is a man made denomination that teaches doctrines of man.