Job 14:7
For there is hope of a tree, if it be cut down,
that it will sprout again,
and that the tender branch thereof will not cease.
8 Though the root thereof wax old in the earth,
and the stock thereof die in the ground;
9 Yet through the scent of water it will bud,
and bring forth boughs like a plant.
10 But man dieth, and wasteth away:
yea, man giveth up the ghost,
and where is he?
11 As the waters fail from the sea,
and the flood decayeth and drieth up:
12 So man lieth down, and riseth not:
till the heavens be no more,
they shall not awake,
nor be raised out of their sleep.
13 O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave,
that thou wouldest keep me secret,
until thy wrath be past,
that thou wouldest appoint me a set time,
and remember me!
14 If a man die, shall he live again?
all the days of my appointed time will I wait,
till my change come.
15 Thou shalt call, and I will answer thee:
thou wilt have a desire to the work of thine hands.
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His (the Dead) sons come to honour,
and he (the Dead) knoweth it not;
and they (his Sons) are brought low,
but he (the Dead) perceiveth it not of them.
pilgrim said:
I seem to remember a poster saying that the dead in Christ have no idea what is happening on earth and therefore do not pray for us.
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ahh Pilgrim;
that was Solomon
Ecc.9:5
the dead know not any thing,
neither have they any more a reward;
for the memory of them is forgotten.
6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy,
is now perished;
neither have they any more a portion for ever
in any thing that is done under the sun.
So man lieth down, and riseth not:
till the heavens be no more,
they shall not awake,
nor be raised out of their sleep.
O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave,
that thou wouldest keep me secret,
until thy wrath be past,
that thou wouldest appoint me a set time,
and remember me!
But the other answering rebuked him,
saying,
Dost not thou fear God,
seeing thou art in the same condemnation?
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And we indeed justly;
for we receive the due reward of our deeds:
but this man hath done nothing amiss.
42 And he said unto Jesus,
Lord, remember me
when thou comest into thy kingdom.