CDC Study Finds Double Masks Offer Much Better Protection

[4Him]

Is that why we have only had a few new cases and no deaths from Covid 19 for weeks?

Maybe the fact that we have almost 300 million more peeps than Australia does makes a difference. That you even compare the two is ridiculous....

 

[LifeIn]

Maybe the fact that we have almost 300 million more peeps than Australia does makes a difference. That you even compare the two is ridiculous....

Apparently you didn't compare the two either, because if you had, you would have seen:

Total deaths from Covid in Australia: 909 (population 25 million)
Total deaths from Covid in USA: 487K (population 328 million).

So the US has 13 times the population of Australia, but has 535 times as many Covid deaths. That is how you compare the two taking population into account.

The comparison is even more striking when you focus only on the last month: Australia: zero. US: about 99K. You can't explain that by our having 13 times the population. If it were proporation, Australia should have had over 7600 deaths in the previous month.

 

[4Him]

Apparently you didn't compare the two either, because if you had, you would have seen:

Total deaths from Covid in Australia: 909 (population 25 million)
Total deaths from Covid in USA: 487K (population 328 million).

So the US has 13 times the population of Australia, but has 535 times as many Covid deaths. That is how you compare the two taking population into account.

I've told you already, the covid death numbers are skewed, since every death is now covid.....and hospitals raked in the bucks to label any death a covid death.....
and you still can't compare the two, given one has 300 million more peeps. If you think that doesn't factor in, I have a bridge to sell the both of you.

BTW, care to comment on why Fauci lied about HCQ, masks and why there isn't even one peer reviewed study of masks?

And your double masking comment....the second is to keep the first one secure....are you suggesting your experts are so incompetent, they waited til we were a year in to let you know your one mask isn't secure enough, after telling everyone you could wear ANY face covering?
Because making a mask that works is just too difficult or too logical?

 

[LifeIn]

I've told you already, the covid death numbers are skewed,

When the data is inconvenient, deny that data. It is an overused ploy.

and you still can't compare the two, given one has 300 million more peeps.

Yet I did compare the two, and accurately to boot.

BTW, care to comment on why Fauci lied about HCQ,

I already told you, he didn't.

why there isn't even one peer reviewed study of masks?

Because there are peer reviewed studies.

And your double masking comment....the second is to keep the first one secure....are you suggesting your experts are so incompetent, they waited til we were a year in to let you know your one mask isn't secure enough

"Secure enough" for what? One mask is very good. But the combination is better. The experts were not incompetent.

Because making a mask that works is just too difficult

It is more difficult to make a perfectly secure mask. But if you don't have the resources to make a perfect mask, use what you have.

 

[Magdalena]

Do you have a reference for these claims?

Here’s one. There are many.

Robert Kennedy Jr: CDC is a privately owned vaccine company

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. claims the CDC owns patents on at least 57 different vaccines, and profits $4.1 billion per year in vaccination sales. According to RFK Jr., the CDC is not an independent gove…

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[J regia]

Maybe the fact that we have almost 300 million more peeps than Australia does makes a difference. That you even compare the two is ridiculous....

Hmmmm!!! Is that why India has 156,000 deaths since they only have 1,338 million peeps?

India COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

India Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

 

[J regia]

I've told you already, the covid death numbers are skewed, since every death is now covid.....and hospitals raked in the bucks to label any death a covid death.....
and you still can't compare the two, given one has 300 million more peeps. If you think that doesn't factor in, I have a bridge to sell the both of you.

BTW, care to comment on why Fauci lied about HCQ, masks and why there isn't even one peer reviewed study of masks?

And your double masking comment....the second is to keep the first one secure....are you suggesting your experts are so incompetent, they waited til we were a year in to let you know your one mask isn't secure enough, after telling everyone you could wear ANY face covering?
Because making a mask that works is just too difficult or too logical?

Wrong. The death toll of 500,000 is because there have been over 28 million cases. Which is why ****** asked for less tests to be done to reduce the number of cases and deaths.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

laboratory experiments using headforms and machines to generate aerosols,

Not a serious study.

Exhale thru sinus vs mouth is not close to the same.

Desperate to get Fao Chi to read and comment on paper.

 

[4Him]

When the data is inconvenient, deny that data. It is an overused ploy.

Then stop doing it.

Yet I did compare the two, and accurately to boot.

No, not accurately. I've told you already, the covid death numbers are skewed, since every death is now covid.....and hospitals raked in the bucks to label any death a covid death.....you can't accurately compare anything when you have a government going out of it's way to pad the death count for money and political reasons.

I already told you, he didn't.

Yes, he did. I can prove he did. Can you prove he didn't?

Because there are peer reviewed studies.

No, there aren't. All you posted were opinion pieces.

"Secure enough" for what? One mask is very good. But the combination is better. The experts were not incompetent.

Yes, they are indeed incompetent. You're the one that brought up the 'secure enough' shtick.

It is more difficult to make a perfectly secure mask. But if you don't have the resources to make a perfect mask, use what you have.

A year in and anyone that thinks they couldn't come up with a functioning mask is naive at best.

 

[4Him]

Wrong.

You repeatedly are.

The death toll of 500,000 is because there have been over 28 million cases.

Nope, the cases numbers AND death counts were skewed, admittedly so by the WHO because of faulty tests, tests that were never to be used to test for a virus, and death counts numbers skewed for the almighty dollar and political reasons.

Which is why ****** asked for less tests to be done to reduce the number of cases and deaths.

I don't know who ****** is, but Obama absolutely made them stop testing for H1N1 so the numbers would go down.

 

[LifeIn]

I've told you already,

Yes, and I didn't believe you then and I don't believe you now. But if you think the covid numbers are skewed to make them look higher in the US, why aren't the covid number skewed in Australia to them look higher too? We are comparing the official numbers from both nations. Also, no one could be unaware of the overflowing morgues and funeral homes in the US. All intelligent people understand that that scope of this covid pandemic is huge.

and hospitals raked in the bucks to label any death a covid death

Hospitals are bleeding money in this pandemic because of the the loss of revenue. They have had to lay off staff and close some offices. This is not the picture of an industry "raking in the bucks".

Yes, he did. I can prove he did. Can you prove he didn't?

You can't prove he lied because he didn't, and the burden of proof is on you to prove he lied.

No, there aren't. All you posted were opinion pieces.

Reclassifying studies as "opinions" as needed to maintain your fiction.

Yes, they are indeed incompetent. You're the one that brought up the 'secure enough' shtick.

It is not a shtick.

A year in and anyone that thinks they couldn't come up with a functioning mask is naive at best.

Another example of criticizing science for moving forward.

Nope, the cases numbers AND death counts were skewed, admittedly so by the WHO

The WHO admitted no such thing. Made us accusations.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

On March, 8 2020 — Dr. Anthony Fauci advised healthy Americans against wearing face masks.

In April 2020 — The CDC said Americans should be wearing masks for the COVID.

In May 2020 — Dr. Anthony Fauci and the New England Journal of Medicine have admitted that masks are little more than symbols. Virtue signaling.

On January 25, 2021 — Dr. Fauci told healthy Americans to wear two masks instead of one.

On January 31, 2021 —This weekend Dr. Fauci backtracked on that insane idea of wearing multiple masks.

Quack Fao Chi is mentally unstable.

Nobody caught Covid from the 2 mask machine dummy

"In a series of laboratory experiments using headforms and machines to generate aerosols, the CDC found that wearing a three-ply cloth mask over a three-ply medical or surgical mask blocked 92.5% of particles from a cough.

Scientific break thru

 

[4Him]

Yes, and I didn't believe you then and I don't believe you now.

Then we're even, because I'm not buying what you're selling either.

But if you think the covid numbers are skewed

I know they are.

why aren't the covid number skewed in Australia to them look higher too?

I don't know anything about their government, so there's that. Maybe it's not as corrupt as ours is.

We are comparing the official numbers from both nations.

No, we aren't, since the official numbers are skewed.

Also, no one could be unaware of the overflowing morgues and funeral homes in the US.

Yet the death rate is lower than in past years.

All intelligent people understand that that scope of this covid pandemic is huge.

Who said it wasn't?

Hospitals are bleeding money in this pandemic because of the the loss of revenue.

Hospitals are bleeding money because they laid off tons of peeps. You would think the opposite if they were full to the brim, which we know isn't true, by video evidence and hospital staff on record admitting as much. Easy to find if you want to know the truth.

They have had to lay off staff and close some offices. This is not the picture of an industry "raking in the bucks".

Except that's exactly what they did. It's a FACT that they got paid more for a covid death. Ask Cuomo about that.

You can't prove he lied

Of course he did. He had to tow the line.

Reclassifying studies as "opinions" as needed to maintain your fiction.

I didn't reclassify anything. I'm going by what YOU posted, which were opinion pieces, not peer reviewed studies.

It is not a shtick.

But it is.

Another example of criticizing science for moving forward.

You mean NOT moving forward.

The WHO admitted no such thing.

They absolutely did. They admitted the case numbers were too high because of false positives....using a test that was NEVER intended to detect a virus.

 

[LifeIn]

No, we aren't, since the official numbers are skewed.

So, we are comparing the official numbers from both nations.

Yet the death rate is lower than in past years.

Wrong again. Excess deaths are up and life expectancy is down. Of course you will have to deny that data too to keep your fantasy alive.

Hospitals are bleeding money because they laid off tons of peeps.

When you lay off people your expenses go down. If income remained the same, they would not be bleeding money. Therefore income dropped - drastically. Of course you will have to deny that too. It must be hard to keep track of all the alternate reality.

You would think the opposite if they were full to the brim

They are full of covid patients, which don't bring in much money. The reason they are bleeding money is that all the other services that normally generate lots of revenue are being postponed by the patients who are afraid of covid. Things like hip operations and colonoscopies. The specialists in these fields have no patients. On the other hand there is an acute shortage of nursing staff in covid wards because of staff infections that put them out of service. My daughter in law is an infectious disease specialist doctor and she knows what is going on there.

Of course he did. He had to tow the line.

There is nothing forcing Fauci to say anything other than what he believes to be true. You're not going to propose another conspiracy theory, are you?

I didn't reclassify anything. I'm going by what YOU posted, which were opinion pieces, not peer reviewed studies.

Doubling down on the reclassifying, I see.

 

[4Him]

So, we are comparing the official numbers from both nations.

No.

Wrong again.

Yes, you are.

Excess deaths are up and life expectancy is down. Of course you will have to deny that data too to keep your fantasy alive.

The data shows a lower death rate than previous years.

When you lay off people your expenses go down. If income remained the same, they would not be bleeding money. Therefore income dropped - drastically. Of course you will have to deny that too. It must be hard to keep track of all the alternate reality.

Except that I'm stating facts and you aren't. It's a known FACT that they get more for covid cases.

They are full of covid patients, which don't bring in much money.

Actually, they do.

The reason they are bleeding money is that all the other services that normally generate lots of revenue are being postponed by the patients who are afraid of covid. Things like hip operations and colonoscopies.

That was put off by the hospitals, not the patients.

On the other hand there is an acute shortage of nursing staff in covid wards because of staff infections that put them out of service. My daughter in law is an infectious disease specialist doctor and she knows what is going on there.

I don't care what she is, what is going on 'there', isn't going on everywhere. Hospitals are not full to the brim here, and I'm in a 'covid hot spot'.

There is nothing forcing Fauci to say anything other than what he believes to be true.

Except there is. Oh, and Fauci also admits, on video, there is little if any asymptomatic spread. A gem of a video I found.

You're not going to propose another conspiracy theory, are you?

A made up term that is pretty meaningless, since I'm right.

Doubling down on the reclassifying, I see.

Apparently you are, since you posting nothing but opinion pieces.

 

[LifeIn]

Some people mistakenly say deaths due to covid have not increased the overall death rate, or that overall deaths have actually declined. Nothing could be further from the truth. Here is an official statement from December 15th:

While death certificates from the last eight weeks of 2020 and more are still being processed, over 334,000 more people died in 2020 than in all of 2019.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

Some people mistakenly say deaths due to covid have not increased the overall death rate, or that overall deaths have actually declined. Nothing could be further from the truth. Here is an official statement from December 15th:

While death certificates from the last eight weeks of 2020 and more are still being processed, over 334,000 more people died in 2020 than in all of 2019.

So you try to tell us masks didn't work. Didn't lower death rates.
And your deceptive Fow Chee never mentions a sharp increase in drug over dose and suicides.

You are an outsider to both science and medicine and your political push is evidence.

 

[4Him]

Some people mistakenly say deaths due to covid have not increased the overall death rate, or that overall deaths have actually declined. Nothing could be further from the truth. Here is an official statement from December 15th:

While death certificates from the last eight weeks of 2020 and more are still being processed, over 334,000 more people died in 2020 than in all of 2019.

Still on par with previous years....also, not all those excess deaths were covid.

 

[LifeIn]

Still on par with previous years..

Overall deaths in the US were 15% higher in 2020 than in any of the previous 3 years. And if we focus only only December, it is 35% higher than in any other recent December. That is not "on a par".

..also, not all those excess deaths were covid.

It is one thing to claim that normal expected numbers of deaths were mistakenly classified as covid. It is quite another to claim that the huge jump in death was something other than covid. It gets harder and harder to maintain the fiction that covid has not killed nearly half a million Americans if one accepts actual data. Your going to have to go back to your earlier denial that there even were any excess deaths at all, even though it is patently false.

Note to all readers: I don't want to post a link, but if you Google "Excess Deaths Associated with Covid-19 - CDC" you will see a chart of the deaths by month over the past three years that shows the undeniable effect of covid.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

Overall deaths in the US were 15% higher in 2020 than in any of the previous 3 years. And if we focus only only December, it is 35% higher than in any other recent December. That is not "on a par".



It is one thing to claim that normal expected numbers of deaths were mistakenly classified as covid. It is quite another to claim that the huge jump in death was something other than covid. It gets harder and harder to maintain the fiction that covid has not killed nearly half a million Americans if one accepts actual data. Your going to have to go back to your earlier denial that there even were any excess deaths at all, even though it is patently false.

Note to all readers: I don't want to post a link, but if you Google "Excess Deaths Associated with Covid-19 - CDC" you will see a chart of the deaths by month over the past three years that shows the undeniable effect of covid.

So the masks didn't work.

You have no medical credentials and not a clue on co-morbidities.