This is addressed to everyone:
Just in the least number of words, mention who or what put us in existence, to me either who or what is okay, for then we will discuss as to concur on utlimately some a what or some a who put us in existence.
You see, everyone, just don't go into long long long forever discussing a who or a what.
That is purely a dilatory nonsense gimmick, so go away, you are useless in the present discussion.
Everyone, no dilatory nonsense, else go away.
The fact and the truth is that something or someone put us in existence.
Now, if you say nothing or nobody put us in existence, in which case you are into an absurd situation with in effect saying that you just exists, without anyone or anything bringing you into existence.
What about you say that your papa and mama put you in existence.
That's good.
Now, we will go into who put papa and mama in existence.
It is their papa and mama.
At this point, we can ask the question:
Ultimately who or what put us in existence.
And I say whoever or whatever that is alwasy existing from itself or himself and is very very very powerful.
At this point, what do you say now?