Our includes Jesus as well.
Obviously you cannot read. Reading comprehension 101
When the speaker repeatedly says "you do X", it does not include the speaker.
Did Jesus say "when we pray' or "when you pray"
2 So He said to them, “When
you pray, say: Our Father in heaven, (Lk 11:2).
5 “And when
you pray... But
you, when
you pray... 7 And when
you pray... 9
In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven (Mt 6:5–9).Jesus never includes Himself in the 'OUR'
When Israel prays we include all of Israel. Shema Israel YHWH our God YHWH is One.
Israel YHWH our God [Elohym =plural] YHWH is One. [ehad =united one]
Not changing. It goes where I said. Best case for you, another anthropomorphism.
Oh, let's see.
I've said this in just about every conversation I've had with folks. Very little by comparison. I'll answer in another post. See above.
See above. Done. Yep, known, understood. Meaning that the folks didn't understand God spiritually. When I can.
Personal opinions not worth answering.
So does Ex 22:8-9 with regards to judges. So try another argument.
Try to follow. Elohim is translated based on the context. So if it is used for judges it does not invalidate its use for YHWH.
Satan is called Ho Theos in the NT too.
Sometimes I forget to dumb down the argument so it can be understood by the lowest denominator.
So lets repost.
as to Greek when the noun carries the definite article it's definite. When it does not it is either definite or indefinite based on the passage. When theos carries the definite article
[and it is not modified as in 2 Cor 4:4] it is equivalent to YHWH. Titus 2:13, 2 Pe 1:1, John 20:28, all have theos carrying the definite article, therefore YHWH.
Sure God the Father speaks who is spirit. I take the NT with a grain of salt.
Wrong that is not what Luke recorded.
What's with the constant winking?
Ok, let's see. Keep in mind that 98% of occurrences are singular. There are aways irregularities. I wouldn't create a religion based on irregularities.
So when in check mate, you pull this out. I do not believe God makes irregularities. Maybe your religion doubts it's documents its god's ability not to make irregularities. We do not. My God which you claim to be your God made it clear that He is a plurality and singularity.
Really?? Try being honest.
Interpret first from the immediate text.
Vs7, but emptied Himself, taking the "morphe/form/nature of a "man/bond-bondservant, and being made in the likeness of men.
“Form” is translated from “morphe” used Phil 2:6,7, and Mk 16:12. In Phil 2:6 Jesus is in “form of God”, 2:7 “form of man”, and Mk 16:12 “ a form taken after the resurrection”. If “morphe “cannot be applied ontologically in Phil 2:6 then it should not be literal in Phi2:7, and if so what was crucified, died, and resurrected in MK?
Mankind is the image of God.
And? So what?
Same thing. The Father is God.
No it does not. That is what you conclude not based on the passage but your bias views.
It shows Jesus isn't God, on a lesser level.
No it does not. That is your opinion. But the text, the chapter, book, and scripture does not support you.
Proves you are not serious. So I will treat you as the troll you are.
Yes, this is a Rabbinical statement meaning life takes precedence on the Sabbath.
Really? You came to that conclusion based on "For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath."
Should start your post with once upon a time.
But he did change by adding another nature ?.
He did not add on, but took on a form. My God is powerful enough to create a human body, occupy it and be fully human and fully God. Yours on the other hand is limited to whatever you wish.
Which according to the Tanakh he doesn't.
That is your opinion. According to the author of Hebrews who was inspired by YHWH, Jesus does. See the difference I have scriptural support. You have your opinion. Put on your big boy pants and put some meat on that bone.
He wasn't. He's just a man.
I gave you my argument based on scripture, you post the above. Really?
He wasn't. His own witness says so, John 20:17.
Your imaginary mathematics. Yours + mine= ours.
Jesus died. That isn't continuous.
In the equation, mankind has an opportunity for eternal existence with God, bypass eternal condemnation, and Jesus resurrected from the dead. I call that love. Your god is an angry god that insist on constant observance to rules that cannot be met, constant sacrificing for sins that cannot be forgiven, and an eternal punishment for offences that cannot be erased. I can see why yours is the better choice.
Inferior, on his knees, confessing who the true God is.
Kneeling does not equate to being inferior in being. In the Bible multiple people kneeled before kings. Does that equate to the king being a superior being than the one kneeling? Suggest you work on your logic.