David1701
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He has asked you the same two questions, several times now, and you have not made the slightest attempt to answer them.
Lazarus ....!
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Leatherneck0311
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He can separate our sins as far as the east is from the west and remember them no more because He is God. Do I fully understand God’s omniscience ? No I don’t but I believe it because God said it is so.
Leatherneck0311
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All I am getting is questions that avoids the two verses I posted that show that the elect are based on God’s foreknowledge as is His predestination is based on His foreknowledge . Then I get the standard deflection like “ what foreknowledge did God use” / what did God foreknow before Making the choice to predestine someone. Anything but actually debating on the scriptures that say elect according to the foreknowledge of God.
American Gothic
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is it a part of God that does not know? or the whole of God that does not know....?
can the Son not know every individual that is going to be saved or exactly when?
Leatherneck0311
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Show me the scripture you are thinking about. Hypotheticals about God’s powers and abilities I generally don’t get involved with.
American Gothic
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"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." Matthew 24
does God the Son know or have to know Everything about Everything within the (His) creation?
like He HAD to know (God being Omniscient) everyone that was going to be saved before He created this Creation? or not really...?
Leatherneck0311
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On earth no in heaven yes.
Says the poster who name calls, deflect, diverts and doesn't deal with Scripture. So lets deal with it...
Tell us what foreknowledge of God it was the He used to make His choices. WHAT did God foreknow before making the choice to predestine someone? Was it foreknowledge of the choices said person would make?
Nope.
Why don't you? Since we are speaking of foreknowledge....
Tell us what foreknowledge of God it was the He used to make His choices. WHAT did God foreknow before making the choice to predestine someone? Was it foreknowledge of the choices said person would make?
American Gothic
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He is in Heaven now, but does not know or remember Everything...
the Father probably knows every individual that will be saved and exactly when
but the Son might not have to know those things...
My questions deal DIRECTLY with the foreknowledge of God....so now you can address them...
Tell us what foreknowledge of God it was the He used to make His choices. WHAT did God foreknow before making the choice to predestine someone? Was it foreknowledge of the choices said person would make?
Questions you should be able to answer since you want to discuss the foreknowledge of God.
NO ONE HAS DENIED SCRIPTURE SAYS THIS.....but YOU don't want to deal with questions that LITERALLY deal with the foreknowledge of God....and we all know why.
Leatherneck0311
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Re-read John 1:1/1:14 and John 8:58 while on earth Jesus was limited in some ways as a man on earth,but those limitations are non existent in heaven. You do understand that Jesus is God right ?
Leatherneck0311
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1Pe 1:2 - Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit,unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you,and peace, be multiplied.
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Wonderful verse...which leads to the questions...1Pe 1:2 - Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit,unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you,and peace, be multiplied.Rom 8:29 - For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. edit per mod
Tell us what foreknowledge of God it was the He used to make His choices. WHAT did God foreknow before making the choice to predestine someone? Was it foreknowledge of the choices said person would make?
American Gothic
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yes, but He's is a Personal aspect of God distinct from the Father
they each have their own individual Will, no?
their own emotions? their own personal intellect?
Leatherneck0311
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Leatherneck0311
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Re-read the verses it is obvious you don’t understand them.
I read them just fine...I understand them just fine....show us that you do and answer the questions that deal directly with the verses you quoted.
Tell us what foreknowledge of God it was the He used to make His choices. WHAT did God foreknow before making the choice to predestine someone? Was it foreknowledge of the choices said person would make?
Leatherneck0311
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Based on your questions it is obvious you don’t understand them. Your questions I would expect from a non believer not a professing Christian.
Based on your inability to answer, it's obvious you don't understand the foreknowledge of God.
I would expect a professing Christian discussing foreknowledge of God to be able to address questions regarding the foreknowledge of God. You can't....and we all know why.
Leatherneck0311
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Lol, I will not go past what the verses say .I will not be indoctrinated into the errors of Calvinism. The word of God is more than sufficient without the spin and deflections and the rerouting and rewording of the verses.