Regenetation

Yup. His answer is...... false. Lol.
Stop being dishonest. I have directly addressed that HERE, and shown from scripture how faith precedes a heart of flesh, and a new life and spirit. You admitted that commands from God are obeyed by unbelievers, so your idea that you need the Spirit to obey is false, and Acts 5:32 proves that idea is unscriptural.
? Did you obey the command to believe prior to receiving a heart of flesh and the Spirit of God??
Aready dealt with. Your repeating this only serves to avoid the damage being done to the false doctrine of regeneration before faith. By your own inability to deny that truth, you admit that commands can be obeyed by those with a heart of stone. The bible speaks to this directly, both by examples like Balaam, and statements like Romans 2, which says that those without the law do things contained in the law. Faith in His blood is how He washes us, through faith. Thats how ez 26:25 is explained in the NT. That comes before a heart of flesh, its what takes you from a heart of stone to a heart of flesh. Your doctrine teaches life in sin, which is heretical.

You admit the truth that unbelievers can and do obey Gods commands. The bible proves it when Balaam obeyed God while being unrighteous.

You never answered HOW God cleansed you as He promised in Ez 36:25?

You never addressed how Ez 36:25-27 follows the exact same pattern (removal of sin before new heart/spirit) in FOUR other passages???

You never explained how you were able to obtain a promise of God before faith, in light of what the word says in Heb 6:12, and 11:33?

You never answered to why you believe one needs the Spirit to obtain faith, seeing what the bible says in Gal 3:2, 5, and 14?

We have no idea how you reconcile your beliefs with Acts 5:32, since you wont even mention it.
Number 7 my pay day approacheth
Number 7, and yes, a payday approaches.
 
Stop being dishonest. I have directly addressed that HERE, and shown from scripture how faith precedes a heart of flesh, and a new life and spirit. You admitted that commands from God are obeyed by unbelievers, so your idea that you need the Spirit to obey is false, and Acts 5:32 proves that idea is unscriptural.

Aready dealt with. Your repeating this only serves to avoid the damage being done to the false doctrine of regeneration before faith. By your own inability to deny that truth, you admit that commands can be obeyed by those with a heart of stone. The bible speaks to this directly, both by examples like Balaam, and statements like Romans 2, which says that those without the law do things contained in the law. Faith in His blood is how He washes us, through faith. Thats how ez 26:25 is explained in the NT. That comes before a heart of flesh, its what takes you from a heart of stone to a heart of flesh. Your doctrine teaches life in sin, which is heretical.

You admit the truth that unbelievers can and do obey Gods commands. The bible proves it when Balaam obeyed God while being unrighteous.

You never answered HOW God cleansed you as He promised in Ez 36:25?

You never addressed how Ez 36:25-27 follows the exact same pattern (removal of sin before new heart/spirit) in FOUR other passages???

You never explained how you were able to obtain a promise of God before faith, in light of what the word says in Heb 6:12, and 11:33?

You never answered to why you believe one needs the Spirit to obtain faith, seeing what the bible says in Gal 3:2, 5, and 14?

We have no idea how you reconcile your beliefs with Acts 5:32, since you wont even mention it.

Number 7, and yes, a payday approaches.
Ya but did you obey the command to believe before or after receiving a heart of flesh and the Spirit of God. Ezekiel 36:25-27

Number 8? Just about time to collect
Keep up the dodging
 
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Ya but did you obey the command to believe before or after receiving a heart of flesh and the Spirit of God. Ezekiel 36:25-27
I have directly addressed that HERE, and shown from scripture how faith precedes a heart of flesh, and a new life and spirit. You admitted that commands from God are obeyed by unbelievers, so your idea that you need the Spirit to obey is false, and Acts 5:32 proves that idea is unscriptural.

Your repeating this only serves to avoid the damage being done to the false doctrine of regeneration before faith. By your own inability to deny that truth, you admit that commands can be obeyed by those with a heart of stone. The bible speaks to this directly, both by examples like Balaam, and statements like Romans 2, which says that those without the law do things contained in the law. Faith in His blood is how He washes us, through faith. Thats how ez 26:25 is explained in the NT. That comes before a heart of flesh, its what takes you from a heart of stone to a heart of flesh. Your doctrine teaches life in sin, which is heretical.

You admit the truth that unbelievers can and do obey Gods commands. The bible proves it when Balaam obeyed God while being unrighteous.

You never answered HOW God cleansed you as He promised in Ez 36:25?

You never addressed how Ez 36:25-27 follows the exact same pattern (removal of sin before new heart/spirit) in FOUR other passages???

You never explained how you were able to obtain a promise of God before faith, in light of what the word says in Heb 6:12, and 11:33?

You never answered to why you believe one needs the Spirit to obtain faith, seeing what the bible says in Gal 3:2, 5, and 14?

We have no idea how you reconcile your beliefs with Acts 5:32, since you wont even mention it.
Number 8?
Another one for you, number 8 lie.
Just about time to collect
Lying is a sin, and does pay a wage. So in that regard, you are right, you are collecting something..
Keep up the dodging
Keep lying. This loop began when you admitted anyone can obey Gods commands, and your argument went out the window. @Rockson gave you the type of answer you wanted HERE, and the next post was just a whimper. Proving that you dont really have a substantive response to the issues your doctrine presents, and this is all just a diversion.
 
I have directly addressed that HERE, and shown from scripture how faith precedes a heart of flesh, and a new life and spirit. You admitted that commands from God are obeyed by unbelievers, so your idea that you need the Spirit to obey is false, and Acts 5:32 proves that idea is unscriptural.

Your repeating this only serves to avoid the damage being done to the false doctrine of regeneration before faith. By your own inability to deny that truth, you admit that commands can be obeyed by those with a heart of stone. The bible speaks to this directly, both by examples like Balaam, and statements like Romans 2, which says that those without the law do things contained in the law. Faith in His blood is how He washes us, through faith. Thats how ez 26:25 is explained in the NT. That comes before a heart of flesh, its what takes you from a heart of stone to a heart of flesh. Your doctrine teaches life in sin, which is heretical.

You admit the truth that unbelievers can and do obey Gods commands. The bible proves it when Balaam obeyed God while being unrighteous.

You never answered HOW God cleansed you as He promised in Ez 36:25?

You never addressed how Ez 36:25-27 follows the exact same pattern (removal of sin before new heart/spirit) in FOUR other passages???

You never explained how you were able to obtain a promise of God before faith, in light of what the word says in Heb 6:12, and 11:33?

You never answered to why you believe one needs the Spirit to obtain faith, seeing what the bible says in Gal 3:2, 5, and 14?

We have no idea how you reconcile your beliefs with Acts 5:32, since you wont even mention it.

Another one for you, number 8 lie.

Lying is a sin, and does pay a wage. So in that regard, you are right, you are collecting something..

Keep lying. This loop began when you admitted anyone can obey Gods commands, and your argument went out the window. @Rockson gave you the type of answer you wanted HERE, and the next post was just a whimper. Proving that you dont really have a substantive response to the issues your doctrine presents, and this is all just a diversion.
Waste of bandwidth. Here is the question again. Its simply yes or no.

Did you obey the command to believe before or after receiveing a heart of flesh and the Spirit of God per Ezekeil 36:25-27?

Number 9
 
Stop being dishonest. I have directly addressed that HERE, and shown from scripture how faith precedes a heart of flesh, and a new life and spirit. You admitted that commands from God are obeyed by unbelievers, so your idea that you need the Spirit to obey is false, and Acts 5:32 proves that idea is unscriptural.

Aready dealt with. Your repeating this only serves to avoid the damage being done to the false doctrine of regeneration before faith. By your own inability to deny that truth, you admit that commands can be obeyed by those with a heart of stone. The bible speaks to this directly, both by examples like Balaam, and statements like Romans 2, which says that those without the law do things contained in the law. Faith in His blood is how He washes us, through faith. Thats how ez 26:25 is explained in the NT. That comes before a heart of flesh, its what takes you from a heart of stone to a heart of flesh. Your doctrine teaches life in sin, which is heretical.

You admit the truth that unbelievers can and do obey Gods commands. The bible proves it when Balaam obeyed God while being unrighteous.

You never answered HOW God cleansed you as He promised in Ez 36:25?

You never addressed how Ez 36:25-27 follows the exact same pattern (removal of sin before new heart/spirit) in FOUR other passages???

You never explained how you were able to obtain a promise of God before faith, in light of what the word says in Heb 6:12, and 11:33?

You never answered to why you believe one needs the Spirit to obtain faith, seeing what the bible says in Gal 3:2, 5, and 14?

We have no idea how you reconcile your beliefs with Acts 5:32, since you wont even mention it.

Number 7, and yes, a payday approaches.
Excellent
 
Waste of bandwidth. Here is the question again. Its simply yes or no.

Did you obey the command to believe before or after receiveing a heart of flesh and the Spirit of God per Ezekeil 36:25-27?

Number 9
I have directly addressed that HERE, and shown from scripture how faith precedes a heart of flesh, and a new life and spirit. You admitted that commands from God are obeyed by unbelievers, so your idea that you need the Spirit to obey is false, and Acts 5:32 proves that idea is unscriptural.

Your repeating this only serves to avoid the damage being done to the false doctrine of regeneration before faith. By your own inability to deny that truth, you admit that commands can be obeyed by those with a heart of stone. The bible speaks to this directly, both by examples like Balaam, and statements like Romans 2, which says that those without the law do things contained in the law. Faith in His blood is how He washes us, through faith. Thats how ez 26:25 is explained in the NT. That comes before a heart of flesh, its what takes you from a heart of stone to a heart of flesh. Your doctrine teaches life in sin, which is heretical.

You admit the truth that unbelievers can and do obey Gods commands. The bible proves it when Balaam obeyed God while being unrighteous.

You never answered HOW God cleansed you as He promised in Ez 36:25?

You never addressed how Ez 36:25-27 follows the exact same pattern (removal of sin before new heart/spirit) in FOUR other passages???

You never explained how you were able to obtain a promise of God before faith, in light of what the word says in Heb 6:12, and 11:33?

You never answered to why you believe one needs the Spirit to obtain faith, seeing what the bible says in Gal 3:2, 5, and 14?

We have no idea how you reconcile your beliefs with Acts 5:32, since you wont even mention it.

Another one for you, number 9 lie.

Lying is a sin, and does pay a wage. So in that regard, you are right, you are collecting something..

Keep lying. This loop began when you admitted anyone can obey Gods commands, and your argument went out the window. @Rockson gave you the type of answer you wanted HERE, and the next post was just a whimper. Proving that you dont really have a substantive response to the issues your doctrine presents, and this is all just a diversion.
 
I have directly addressed that HERE, and shown from scripture how faith precedes a heart of flesh, and a new life and spirit. You admitted that commands from God are obeyed by unbelievers, so your idea that you need the Spirit to obey is false, and Acts 5:32 proves that idea is unscriptural.

Your repeating this only serves to avoid the damage being done to the false doctrine of regeneration before faith. By your own inability to deny that truth, you admit that commands can be obeyed by those with a heart of stone. The bible speaks to this directly, both by examples like Balaam, and statements like Romans 2, which says that those without the law do things contained in the law. Faith in His blood is how He washes us, through faith. Thats how ez 26:25 is explained in the NT. That comes before a heart of flesh, its what takes you from a heart of stone to a heart of flesh. Your doctrine teaches life in sin, which is heretical.

You admit the truth that unbelievers can and do obey Gods commands. The bible proves it when Balaam obeyed God while being unrighteous.

You never answered HOW God cleansed you as He promised in Ez 36:25?

You never addressed how Ez 36:25-27 follows the exact same pattern (removal of sin before new heart/spirit) in FOUR other passages???

You never explained how you were able to obtain a promise of God before faith, in light of what the word says in Heb 6:12, and 11:33?

You never answered to why you believe one needs the Spirit to obtain faith, seeing what the bible says in Gal 3:2, 5, and 14?

We have no idea how you reconcile your beliefs with Acts 5:32, since you wont even mention it.

Another one for you, number 9 lie.

Lying is a sin, and does pay a wage. So in that regard, you are right, you are collecting something..

Keep lying. This loop began when you admitted anyone can obey Gods commands, and your argument went out the window. @Rockson gave you the type of answer you wanted HERE, and the next post was just a whimper. Proving that you dont really have a substantive response to the issues your doctrine presents, and this is all just a diversion.
Did you obey the command to beleive before or after recevieing the new heart and the Spirit of God per Ezekiel 36;25-27?


Money time!!! lol
 
Did you obey the command to beleive before or after recevieing the new heart and the Spirit of God per Ezekiel 36;25-27?


Money time!!! lol
I have directly addressed that HERE, and shown from scripture how faith precedes a heart of flesh, and a new life and spirit. You admitted that commands from God are obeyed by unbelievers, so your idea that you need the Spirit to obey is false, and Acts 5:32 proves that idea is unscriptural.

Your repeating this only serves to avoid the damage being done to the false doctrine of regeneration before faith. By your own inability to deny that truth, you admit that commands can be obeyed by those with a heart of stone. The bible speaks to this directly, both by examples like Balaam, and statements like Romans 2, which says that those without the law do things contained in the law. Faith in His blood is how He washes us, through faith. Thats how ez 26:25 is explained in the NT. That comes before a heart of flesh, its what takes you from a heart of stone to a heart of flesh. Your doctrine teaches life in sin, which is heretical.

You admit the truth that unbelievers can and do obey Gods commands. The bible proves it when Balaam obeyed God while being unrighteous.

You never answered HOW God cleansed you as He promised in Ez 36:25?

You never addressed how Ez 36:25-27 follows the exact same pattern (removal of sin before new heart/spirit) in FOUR other passages???

You never explained how you were able to obtain a promise of God before faith, in light of what the word says in Heb 6:12, and 11:33?

You never answered to why you believe one needs the Spirit to obtain faith, seeing what the bible says in Gal 3:2, 5, and 14?

We have no idea how you reconcile your beliefs with Acts 5:32, since you wont even mention it.

Another one for you, number 10!!! You did it!!!!.

@Rockson gave you the type of answer you wanted HERE, and the next post was just a whimper. Proving that you dont really have a substantive response to the issues your doctrine presents, and this is all just a diversion.
 
I have directly addressed that HERE, and shown from scripture how faith precedes a heart of flesh, and a new life and spirit. You admitted that commands from God are obeyed by unbelievers, so your idea that you need the Spirit to obey is false, and Acts 5:32 proves that idea is unscriptural.

Your repeating this only serves to avoid the damage being done to the false doctrine of regeneration before faith. By your own inability to deny that truth, you admit that commands can be obeyed by those with a heart of stone. The bible speaks to this directly, both by examples like Balaam, and statements like Romans 2, which says that those without the law do things contained in the law. Faith in His blood is how He washes us, through faith. Thats how ez 26:25 is explained in the NT. That comes before a heart of flesh, its what takes you from a heart of stone to a heart of flesh. Your doctrine teaches life in sin, which is heretical.

You admit the truth that unbelievers can and do obey Gods commands. The bible proves it when Balaam obeyed God while being unrighteous.

You never answered HOW God cleansed you as He promised in Ez 36:25?

You never addressed how Ez 36:25-27 follows the exact same pattern (removal of sin before new heart/spirit) in FOUR other passages???

You never explained how you were able to obtain a promise of God before faith, in light of what the word says in Heb 6:12, and 11:33?

You never answered to why you believe one needs the Spirit to obtain faith, seeing what the bible says in Gal 3:2, 5, and 14?

We have no idea how you reconcile your beliefs with Acts 5:32, since you wont even mention it.

Another one for you, number 10!!! You did it!!!!.

@Rockson gave you the type of answer you wanted HERE, and the next post was just a whimper. Proving that you dont really have a substantive response to the issues your doctrine presents, and this is all just a diversion.
Did you obey Gods command to believe before or after receiveing the heart of flesh and the Spirit of God per Ezekiel 36:25-27??
 
Did you obey Gods command to believe before or after receiveing the heart of flesh and the Spirit of God per Ezekiel 36:25-27??
Stop dodging my questions. If you cannot answer, or even just dont want to, its ok to say that. This spectacle is ridiculous.
 
Stop dodging my questions. If you cannot answer, or even just dont want to, its ok to say that. This spectacle is ridiculous.
Did you obey Gods command to believe before or after receiveing the heart of flesh and the Spirit of God per Ezekiel 36: 25-27?

I agree. You simply refuse to answer a yes or no question. False is not a answer
 
Did you obey Gods command to believe before or after receiveing the heart of flesh and the Spirit of God per Ezekiel 36: 25-27?

I agree. You simply refuse to answer a yes or no question. False is not a answer
I didnt answer false to that question. You accused me of dodging it, that is false. I already addressed it multiple times now, and you keep playing this game as a way to avoid the questions I have for you. So instead of accepting the answer, its this circus, because I didnt answer it the way you want. Childish posturing does nothing for your argument, and you only started after admitting that anyone can obey a command of God, which took the legs out from under anything you have to say about the subject.
 
I didnt answer false to that question. You accused me of dodging it, that is false. I already addressed it multiple times now, and you keep playing this game as a way to avoid the questions I have for you. So instead of accepting the answer, its this circus, because I didnt answer it the way you want. Childish posturing does nothing for your argument, and you only started after admitting that anyone can obey a command of God, which took the legs out from under anything you have to say about the subject.
Can anyone believe Jesus is Lord without the Holy Spirit, @cadwell?
 
I didnt answer false to that question. You accused me of dodging it, that is false. I already addressed it multiple times now, and you keep playing this game as a way to avoid the questions I have for you. So instead of accepting the answer, its this circus, because I didnt answer it the way you want. Childish posturing does nothing for your argument, and you only started after admitting that anyone can obey a command of God, which took the legs out from under anything you have to say about the subject.
Yes or no. Did you obey the command to believe before or after the heart of flesh and God putting His Spirit in you per Ezekiel 36:25-27?
 
Yes or no. Did you obey the command to believe before or after the heart of flesh and God putting His Spirit in you per Ezekiel 36:25-27?
You cant make me answer the way you want me to, it is quite amusing watching you try though. Already answered HERE, just not the way you childishly demand.

Heb 6:12 That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.
Heb 11:33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions.

How did you manage to obtain the promise of regeneration BEFORE faith, contradicting the scriptures above??? Stop dodging and face the implications of your false teaching.
 
You cant make me answer the way you want me to, it is quite amusing watching you try though. Already answered HERE, just not the way you childishly demand.

Heb 6:12 That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.
Heb 11:33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions.

How did you manage to obtain the promise of regeneration BEFORE faith, contradicting the scriptures above??? Stop dodging and face the implications of your false teaching.
Did you obey the command to believe before or after God giving you a heart of flesh and putting His Spirit in you? Ezekiel 36:25-27?
 
Did you obey the command to believe before or after God giving you a heart of flesh and putting His Spirit in you? Ezekiel 36:25-27?
Already answered HERE.

Gal 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Gal 3:5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

How did you receive the Spirit? According to Gal 3, or some other way? Your false teaching says you need the Spirit first, Paul says the Spirit comes by the hearing of faith.
 
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