This appears to be copied from Strong's which has been found to have about 15,000 errors or omissions.
Here is the complete definition of echad from BDAG one of, if not the most highly accredited Hebrew lexicon currently available.
first thanks for your reply, second, the #6 definition take note of it., "
6. one … another, the one … the other א׳ … א׳ Ex 17:12; 18:3, 4 Am 4:7 2 S 12:1 Je 24:2 2 Ch 3:17 Ne 4:11 +"
in the FIRST EXAMPLES it gave, Exodus 17:12 "But Moses' hands were heavy; and they took a stone, and put it under him, and he sat thereon; and Aaron and Hur stayed up his hands,
the one on the one side, and the other on the other side; and his hands were steady until the going down of the sun."
one on one side, and one on the other side, do this sound exactly as G243 allos in the ECHAD? NO, lets see it, "Allos
expresses a numerical difference and denotes
another of
the same sort. the numerical difference is, Aaron, (ONE), and HUR, (ONE), the same one Person? NO, we have two ONE's. now is Arron and Hur united, in persons? or in a task?
understand, the term
OTHER here in Exodus 17:12, it's meaning is denoting a person or thing that is
different or distinct from one already mentioned or known about. keep this in mind. this is G2087 Heteros, and NOT G243 Allps.
the next example, Exodus 18:3 "And her
two sons; of which the name of the
one was Gershom; for he said, I have been an alien in a strange land:" Exodus 18:4 "And the name of the
other was Eliezer; for the God of my father, said he, was mine help, and delivered me from the sword of Pharaoh:" angain are the Names the same?
next example, Amos 4:7 "And also I have withholden the rain from you, when there were yet three months to the harvest: and I caused it to rain upon
one city, and caused it not to rain upon
another city: one piece was rained upon, and the piece whereupon it rained not withered."
is these two Cities the same onr? no, remember the term
OTHER here means denoting a person or thing that is
different or distinct from one already mentioned or known about. keep this in mind.
the next example, 2 Samuel 12:1 "And the LORD sent Nathan unto David. And he came unto him, and said unto him, There were two men in
one city; the
one rich, and the
other poor."
again remember the term
OTHER here means denoting a person or thing that is
different or distinct from one already mentioned or known about. keep this in mind.
next example, Jeremiah 24:2 "
One basket had very good figs, even like the figs that are first ripe: and the
other basket had very naughty figs, which could not be eaten, they were so bad."
same figs? no, again, remember the term
OTHER here means denoting a person or thing that is
different or distinct from one already mentioned or known about. keep this in mind.
2 Chronicles 3:17 "And he reared up the pillars before the temple,
one on the right hand, and the
other on the left; and called the name of that on the right hand Jachin, and the name of that on the left Boaz."
again, remember the term
OTHER here means denoting a person or thing that is
different or distinct from one already mentioned or known about. keep this in mind.
and the last example (which is in the following verses), Nehemiah 4:17 "They which builded on the wall, and they that bare burdens, with those that laded, every
one with
one of his hands wrought in the work, and with
the other hand held a weapon."
and this ONE.. Nehemiah 4:18 "For the builders, every
one had his sword girded by his side, and so builded. And he that sounded the trumpet was by me."
and this last one, Nehemiah 4:19 "And I said unto the nobles, and to the rulers, and to the rest of the people, The work is great and large, and we are separated upon the wall,
one far from
another."
OldShepherd, if this is suppose to be a complete definition of echad from BDAG one of, if not the most highly accredited Hebrew lexicon currently available. then they failed in understanding. not in quanity, but in quality.
their use of the term "ECHAD" as "another" fail in every sense, here's my reasoning, in the first example, Aaron and Hur are not a unity in PERSON, remember, the term
OTHER here means denoting a person or thing that is
different or distinct from one already mentioned or known about. as with the name and cities,,,,, which are "
different or distinct from one already mentioned", but in an ECHAD of the EQUAL SHARE, it is the SAME
one Person who is "
different or distinct from one already mentioned" in ORDINAL designation ... First .. Last. same ONE PERSON.
the Distinction in Ordinal designation in G243 allos NUMERICAL DIFFERENCE.
the Distinction, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning?
I the LORD,
the first, and
with the last; I am he." the First is with the Last is a NUMERICAL tha G243 allos speak of, but it is the SAME ONE PERSON, lets see it,
Now, the "ONENESS" in Ordinal designation as ONE and the same Person.
Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called;
I am he;
I am the first,
I also am
the last." BINDO, the same is "ALSO" if one os "ALSO then is's the SAME ONE PERSON, and if the SAME PERSON, then not in Distiction in Person but in quantity, or as G243 allos states NUMERICAL DIFFERENCE, and NOT IN NUMERICAL PERSONS.
UNDERSTAND, the term "ANOTHER" or "OTHER", have two meaning, listen,
G243 Allos, it express, "
a numerical difference and denotes
another of the
same sort"
G2087 Heteros, it express, "
a qualitative difference and denotes
another of a
different sort."
see the difference now?
so the vine and the Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Dictionary are the best, in showing the "ECHAD" of God as an Ordinal Definition, vs a unity.
PICJAG, 101G.
YIKES!).