Josheb
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lol!Yup--He sure will. Especially that Josh fella.
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May God bless you accordingly .
lol!Yup--He sure will. Especially that Josh fella.
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Are you stating Adam did not have free will?Adam Wasn't free from God's determination
FYI...… what it means for God to be Omnipotent. I’m willing to bet it will be very interesting to you especially.
00:47:11 Foundation question
00:52:12 Omni-atributes addressed
00:55:24 "Omnipotence" specifically
Thread 'Free Will Meticulously Examined… and Refuted!'
https://forums.carm.org/threads/free-will-meticulously-examined…-and-refuted.5746/
Have you read Van Till and/or Bahnsen?I read some Frame a while back, and I agreeded with his take on the whole Cornelius Van Til presupositionalism issue. Van til, and his student Greg Bahnsen oversell the idea and make logical mistakes.
I have. I like them. I just think they over reached a bit. This can be seen in Bahnsen's famous "great debate". He definitely won the debate, but mainly because Stein was not ready for his argument, Not because of his argument.Have you read Van Till and/or Bahnsen?
If not then I recommend you do before deciding their value.
That's why I gave the 9 min timestamp link for your convenience... but I understand if you dont have that kind of time. No worries.FYI...
I'm not listening to a five-hour video for the sake of a discussion board conversation...
Depends on what one means by it. He was certainly free to do what he wanted.Are you stating Adam did not have free will?
So if Adam had free will in eating/not eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was he a dualist power in addition to God?Depends on what one means by it. He was certainly free to do what he wanted.
Calvin's point was Adam was not bound by a sin nature. In that sense his will was free to choose good. However he was not free from God's determination.
No becasue he was not free from Gods determination.So if Adam had free will in eating/not eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was he a dualist power in addition to God?
So you believe Adam was determined to sin?No becasue he was not free from Gods determination.
Robot theology - no
Now you speak for all Calvinists?Neither do Calvinists.
And your correct response is NOT to argue against us, and try to falsely claim we believe something we don't.
Your CORRECT response is, "I'm glad you don't believe that. I'll stop making that inaccurate accusation."
the godfather roflNow you speak for all Calvinists?
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Now you are going to tell what I must post?
I guessthe godfather rofl
Yes.So you believe Adam was determined to sin?
and he had no choice but to sin correct ?Yes.
Incorrect. He chose to sin.and he had no choice but to sin correct ?
agreedIncorrect. He chose to sin.
But yet it was determined that he choose to.agreed
so its just an illusion he had a free will choice not to sin since it was predetermined.But yet it was determined that he choose to.