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Yep ??Could it be that through God’s foreknowledge He knew Esau would sell his birthright for a bowel of stew ?
they conflate foreknowledge with predestination. It’s predetermined fit them to do so
Yep ??Could it be that through God’s foreknowledge He knew Esau would sell his birthright for a bowel of stew ?
Have you rejected God ? Did YOU not make a choice to believe God ?All men reject God (Rom 3:11b)
Why not?Could it be that through God’s foreknowledge He knew Esau would sell his birthright for a bowel of stew ?
Yes, so did you. So did @Joe, so did @Predestined, so did @Chalcedon, so did @JohnnybgoodHave you rejected God ?
Yes, after God chose me.Did YOU not make a choice to believe God ?
Could it be that through God’s foreknowledge He knew Esau would sell his birthright for a bowel of stew ?
God drew me to His Son and I accepted the truth and placed MY FAITH in Him, and sadly many reject truth and will not place their faith in Him.Yes, so did you. So did @Joe, so did @Predestined, so did @Chalcedon, so did @Johnnybgood
Yes, after God chose me.
Did God choose you, or did you choose God?
Why can’t Calvinist see from scripture ( it’s there) that God’s invitation to come was to everyone.Yes, so did you. So did @Joe, so did @Predestined, so did @Chalcedon, so did @Johnnybgood
Yes, after God chose me.
Did God choose you, or did you choose God?
Ditto to all men , all the world , everyone without exception.Why can’t Calvinist see from scripture ( it’s there) that God’s invitation to come was to everyone.
God does not love anyone He does not save. He hates those outside of Christ.RG, essentially what you are saying is God loves some less. And yet the our Lord and His hand picked Apostles declared that God showed His love for the world by giving His Son to be the propitiation for the sins of the whole world. And we know from Hebrews 2:9 that God's Son tasted death for everyone. And yet it seems you think that God loves some less even though He gave His Son for them.
Hypothetically, if you gave your son to save the whole world, it would seem you would have meant it and fully intended to save the whole world. Why should we think any differently with God, especially since it is not hypothetical that God gave His Son to tase death for everyone and be the propitiation for the sins of the whole world?
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It is sad.God drew me to His Son and I accepted the truth and placed MY FAITH in Him, and sadly many reject truth and will not place their faith in Him.
They do. Salvation is a genuine offer from God to everyone. ?Why can’t Calvinist see from scripture ( it’s there) that God’s invitation to come was to everyone.
That is NOT true based on scripture:God does not love anyone He does not save. He hates those outside of Christ.
again The Father drew me to the Son, and at that point everyone either accepts or rejects truth.Yes, so did you. So did @Joe, so did @Predestined, so did @Chalcedon, so did @Johnnybgood
Yes, after God chose me.
Did God choose you, or did you choose God?
Who is they ? The calvinist I have talked to believe in the cosmic lottery they call election.They do. Salvation is a genuine offer from God to everyone. ?
All men = Jew and Gentile.That is NOT true based on scripture:2Pe 3:9 - The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is long suffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance
God provided the grace and expects men to do their part which is believe in Him and do their part as He commanded. Show me from scripture any verse that says God believes for us, repents for us, and or His faith is imputed to believers. The only thing I see in scripture when we are saved is that Jesus imputes His righteousness to us who believe and repent.All men = Jew and Gentile.
Are you implying that God desires salvation for someone but it's unable to do so without mans permission?
I would say that I believe Unconditional Election is true, but it's not a Lottery. The reason it's not a Lottery is because we're Justified through our Faith Alone in Christ Alone. No one is Justified through Election Alone; that IS Hyper...Who is they ? The calvinist I have talked to believe in the cosmic lottery they call election.
Nope I am stating that God’s offer based on scripture is to everyone but not everyone will believe.All men = Jew and Gentile.
Are you implying that God desires salvation for someone but it's unable to do so without mans permission?
If God elected you your faith would not even be relevant. God commanded men to believe and repent, and if they do not Jesus said it is because they love darkness more than light. It was their choice ,a bad choice for sure ,but still their choice.I would say that I believe Unconditional Election is true, but it's not a Lottery. The reason it's not a Lottery is because we're Justified through our Faith Alone in Christ Alone. No one is Justified through Election Alone; that IS Hyper...
Why can’t Calvinist see from scripture ( it’s there) that God’s invitation to come was to everyone.