Nondenom40
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The question was to you, not me. What else OTHER than her faith did Jesus say saved her? "Your _______ has saved you." Fill in the blank.But what did she DO before this? Her Faith was not ALONE.
The question was to you, not me. What else OTHER than her faith did Jesus say saved her? "Your _______ has saved you." Fill in the blank.But what did she DO before this? Her Faith was not ALONE.
I've been asking this question for years here. No takers yet. Catholics hate it when we post verses they themselves have to interpret. Such a simple verse but it goes against the very fabric of catholicism. They can't answer it w/o going against official catholic teaching. So its anything other than faith alone.Okay so what else in mentioned there other than faith? I have asked you this question a dozen times, at least, and have never had the first reply from you. You have yet to list what else was there other than faith.
bluedog1us said:
Okay so what else in mentioned there other than faith? I have asked you this question a dozen times, at least, and have never had the first reply from you. You have yet to list what else was there other than faith.
yes, it's been asked over and over - with no answer from any catholics.I've been asking this question for years here. No takers yet. Catholics hate it when we post verses they themselves have to interpret. Such a simple verse but it goes against the very fabric of catholicism. They can't answer it w/o going against official catholic teaching. So its anything other than faith alone.
I know. That's why I keep asking. Maybe one day it will soak in.yes, it's been asked over and over - with no answer from any catholics.
If they answered honestly they would contradict their own faith. Can't have that.yes, it's been asked over and over - with no answer from any catholics.
Not if they want to remain good Catholics! Trent anathematized any who have the temerity to say we are saved by faith. Which the local RCs parrot faithfully. Unfortunately, after 450-odd years, the Magesteria still haven't figured out what else is needed. Or are afraid to say what it is...I know. That's why I keep asking. Maybe one day it will soak in.
No, What did she DO? She did something. She didnt come in and say she believed. She did something.The question was to you, not me. What else OTHER than her faith did Jesus say saved her? "Your _______ has saved you." Fill in the blank.
So you want to rewrite scripture because it doesn't align with catholic beliefs. Okay, shoot. Rewrite the verse so it placates catholics. Give us your infallible interpretation. Remember those in Matt 7:22ff 'did things' too. What did Jesus say to them? Doing something isn't how one gets to heaven. But youre up, tell us what saved that woman. Here it is again lest we forget.No, What did she DO? She did something. She didnt come in and say she believed. She did something.
no, I asked what did she do? There was way more to the verse than you pointed to. There was something she did before Jesus said those words.So you want to rewrite scripture because it doesn't align with catholic beliefs. Okay, shoot. Rewrite the verse so it placates catholics. Give us your infallible interpretation. Remember those in Matt 7:22ff 'did things' too. What did Jesus say to them? Doing something isn't how one gets to heaven. But youre up, tell us what saved that woman. Here it is again lest we forget.
Luke 7:50 And he said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”
so you think she was saved because of what she did? that's very catholic of you. she loved HIM. what she did outwardly expressed her love for HIM. -- it could be seen by others. as James 2 speaks about - but catholics know nothing of it.no, I asked what did she do? There was way more to the verse than you pointed to. There was something she did before Jesus said those words.
no, I asked what did she do? There was way more to the verse than you pointed to. There was something she did before Jesus said those words.
Why don't you just rewrite the verse for us? Put some words in Jesus' mouth. Explain it to us. What saved the woman? You keep asking questions about what she did but never tell us anything specific.no, I asked what did she do? There was way more to the verse than you pointed to. There was something she did before Jesus said those words.
There was way more to the verse than you pointed to
I don't care if she came to Him cutting backflips on a unicycle. JESUS said your FAITH has saved you. Why argue with Jesus? What she did or didn't do made NO difference. It was her FAITH that saved her. What part of that don't you understand?No, What did she DO? She did something. She didnt come in and say she believed. She did something.
I fear that understanding it is not the Roman Catholics' problem. It is a problem of accepting what God has plainly said when it goes counter to what the RCC proclaims. Over and over we hear the master of the RCC saying, "Hasss God really ssssaid?", with its (knowingly or unknowingly) duped minions echoing its words. They accept the "security" of the prison of Roman Catholicism, while rejecting the Christ Whose word would set them truly free.I don't care if she came to Him cutting backflips on a unicycle. JESUS said your FAITH has saved you. Why argue with Jesus? What she did or didn't do made NO difference. It was her FAITH that saved her. What part of that don't you understand?
No "Contradiction" at all. Just another verse out of CONTEXT to try to "Prove" a FALSE argument.James 2:24 reads, “You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone” contradictions?
Bump for Blessings8. Care to answer? You seem sure something other than faith saved her but aren't telling us what. Help a prot out.Why don't you just rewrite the verse for us? Put some words in Jesus' mouth. Explain it to us. What saved the woman? You keep asking questions about what she did but never tell us anything specific.
Like what? Its a pretty short verse. Give us your interpretation.
36 One of the Pharisees asked him to eat with him, and he went into the Pharisee's house and reclined at table. 37 And behold, a woman of the city, who was a sinner, when she learned that he was reclining at table in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster flask of ointment, 38 and standing behind him at his feet, weeping, she began to wet his feet with her tears and wiped them with the hair of her head and kissed his feet and anointed them with the ointment. 39 Now when the Pharisee who had invited him saw this, he said to himself, “If this man were a prophet, he would have known who and what sort of woman this is who is touching him, for she is a sinner.” 40 And Jesus answering said to him, “Simon, I have something to say to you.” And he answered, “Say it, Teacher.”Bump for Blessings8. Care to answer? You seem sure something other than faith saved her but aren't telling us what. Help a prot out.
36 One of the Pharisees asked him to eat with him, and he went into the Pharisee's house and reclined at table. 37 And behold, a woman of the city, who was a sinner, when she learned that he was reclining at table in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster flask of ointment, 38 and standing behind him at his feet, weeping, she began to wet his feet with her tears and wiped them with the hair of her head and kissed his feet and anointed them with the ointment. 39 Now when the Pharisee who had invited him saw this, he said to himself, “If this man were a prophet, he would have known who and what sort of woman this is who is touching him, for she is a sinner.” 40 And Jesus answering said to him, “Simon, I have something to say to you.” And he answered, “Say it, Teacher.”
41 “A certain moneylender had two debtors. One owed five hundred denarii, and the other fifty. 42 When they could not pay, he cancelled the debt of both. Now which of them will love him more?” 43 Simon answered, “The one, I suppose, for whom he cancelled the larger debt.” And he said to him, “You have judged rightly.” 44 Then turning toward the woman he said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I entered your house; you gave me no water for my feet, but she has wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. 45 You gave me no kiss, but from the time I came in she has not ceased to kiss my feet. 46 You did not anoint my head with oil, but she has anointed my feet with ointment. 47 Therefore I tell you, her sins, which are many, are forgiven—for she loved much. But he who is forgiven little, loves little.” 48 And he said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.” 49 Then those who were at table with him began to say among[a] themselves, “Who is this, who even forgives sins?” 50 And he said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”
Her Faith was not just belief. Faith has action to it. There is repentance, love, obedience. It is not Faith ALONE.
Are you saying Jesus lied? Because in verse 50, Jesus said " your FAITH has saved you". Are you saying the rcc's word is greater than Jesus's words? Did HE even mention WORKS? She did what she did BECAUSE of her faith!36 One of the Pharisees asked him to eat with him, and he went into the Pharisee's house and reclined at table. 37 And behold, a woman of the city, who was a sinner, when she learned that he was reclining at table in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster flask of ointment, 38 and standing behind him at his feet, weeping, she began to wet his feet with her tears and wiped them with the hair of her head and kissed his feet and anointed them with the ointment. 39 Now when the Pharisee who had invited him saw this, he said to himself, “If this man were a prophet, he would have known who and what sort of woman this is who is touching him, for she is a sinner.” 40 And Jesus answering said to him, “Simon, I have something to say to you.” And he answered, “Say it, Teacher.”
41 “A certain moneylender had two debtors. One owed five hundred denarii, and the other fifty. 42 When they could not pay, he cancelled the debt of both. Now which of them will love him more?” 43 Simon answered, “The one, I suppose, for whom he cancelled the larger debt.” And he said to him, “You have judged rightly.” 44 Then turning toward the woman he said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I entered your house; you gave me no water for my feet, but she has wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. 45 You gave me no kiss, but from the time I came in she has not ceased to kiss my feet. 46 You did not anoint my head with oil, but she has anointed my feet with ointment. 47 Therefore I tell you, her sins, which are many, are forgiven—for she loved much. But he who is forgiven little, loves little.” 48 And he said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.” 49 Then those who were at table with him began to say among[a] themselves, “Who is this, who even forgives sins?” 50 And he said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”
Her Faith was not just belief. Faith has action to it. There is repentance, love, obedience. It is not Faith ALONE.
Are you saying Jesus lied? Because in verse 50, Jesus said " your FAITH has saved you". Are you saying the rcc's word is greater than Jesus's words? Did HE even mention WORKS? She did what she did BECAUSE of her faith!
No I have no problem with believing what Jesus said at all! You are the one with that problem. Read verse 50 again. That is an explicit statement from JESUS! So live with it!That woman had love. She had repentance and she showed it. She didn't speak a word. Your issue isn't with me, it is with scripture.